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<trackbot> Date: 11 October 2011
<joerg> hi
<joerg> jep, first visit, so calling early
<joerg> ;-)
<scribe> scribenick: ericP
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
APPROVED
RESOLVED
RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
<mhausenblas> ACTION-159?
<trackbot> ACTION-159 -- Boris Villazón-Terrazas to create RDFa representation of R2RML vocab -- due 2011-09-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/159
<boris> http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml
<mhausenblas> close ACTION-159
<trackbot> ACTION-159 Create RDFa representation of R2RML vocab closed
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-69?
<trackbot> ISSUE-69 -- datatype sizes -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/69
ericP: note that providing extension advice encourages conformance of the extensions around e.g. representations of 1 BC
ashok: let's not decide anything until cygri is here
joerg: we're working on
implementaitons of RDB2RDF
... want to represent our WG and our interests in mapping
relational database
Ashok: when will you have an implementation we can look at?
<mhausenblas> Michael: we will take Joerg through the IE procedure as described here: http://www.w3.org/2004/08/invexp
joerg: don't want to say
now
... prefer to wait until we have stability
Ashok: this is a formal
process
... we much record each question or comment
... we have to reply to it
... and we have to get the commentor's agreement
... last week, we spoke of using a wiki
... this is required 'cause the director will ask us about the
resolution of our last call comments
<mhausenblas> Michael: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Last_Call
mhausenblas: so we agreed that for each LC comment, that an editor update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Last_Call and@@or create an issue
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#item03
mhausenblas: current
understanding per http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#item03
is that we:
... .. do not use the wiki
... .. address editorial comments directly
... .. create issues for substantive issues
... have editors been keeping up on the comments lists?
juansequeda: i didn't seen any major issues (just editorial advice)
mhausenblas: ivan's comments are
marked editorial
... I think there are comments from dominic on R2RML and
DM
... [get to work, slackers -- ED]
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations
mhausenblas: just heard about an implementation from antidot
<mhausenblas> Michael: I added them already
Ashok: ivan asked about what we do about the fact that the implementations page claims that many implementations will be available early 2011
mhausenblas: cygri updated it for D2RQ
ericP: FeDeRate can be checked out, not plans for R2RML now
boris: expect to release morph (R2RML-only) end of 2011
MacTed: Virtuoso relase either out now or in the next couple days supports R2RML and DM
dmcneil: early release of Spyder
captured early R2RML
... expect update this year
juansequeda: UltraWrap implements
DM, DM++ and older R2RML
... should have an update at the end of the year
mhausenblas: i believe nuno is working on the XSPARQL implementation
ericP: having more than 2 interoperable implementations isn't required for exiting CR, but is good for making an impression
mhausenblas: many language/platform implementations tests the spec well
<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
boris: updated the test
cases
... currently 40 R3RML test cases
<boris> 40
<boris> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests
<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_TC
boris, following cygri's advice, created a test case for each part of the spec
mhausenblas: how will we review
test cases?
... do we have a test runner?
boris: we haven't finished this down
<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to talk about EARL
ericP: we asked testers to submit
test results in an extension of EARL
... we also provided a test harness for SPARQL protocol
mhausenblas: i think it's useful to use EARL, but not useful to write a harness
Ashok, we have used a less formal for folks to say "i've run this and passed some/most/all tests"
Ashok,:we have used a less formal for folks to say "i've run this and passed some/most/all tests"
<mhausenblas> Michael: Also, we could provide simply instructions how to perform the tests
Ashok: we have used a less formal approach for folks to say "i've run this and passed some/most/all tests"
boris: how easy is it to generate EARL
ericP: if we have on the order of a hundred tests, we probably want to know which tests people passed
mhausenblas: +1 to mapping EARL
to HTML
... boris, you can describe the process in the test doc
boris: will integrate into test doc and notify list
<mhausenblas> ACTION: Boris to add section concerning testing in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/ (re EARL, input/output) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Add section concerning testing in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/ (re EARL, input/output) [on Boris Villazón-Terrazas - due 2011-10-18].
boris: we need to check my new test cases
ericP: i'm not sure we need a process to approve test cases since we don't intend to include incorrect tests (as we did in the record of SPARQL)
<boris> sorry
<mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]
<mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
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