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RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference

20 Sep 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Ashok_Malhotra, boris, mhausenblas, EricP, +1.562.686.aaaa, Marcelo, cygri, seema, Souri, juansequeda, MacTed, nunolopes, Ashok, Boris, Eric, Michael, Richard, Seema, Juan
Regrets
Dave
Chair
Michael
Scribe
mhausenblas

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 20 September 2011

<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas

Admin

PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-RDB2RDF-minutes.html

RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-RDB2RDF-minutes.html

Open actions

ACTION-140?

<trackbot> ACTION-140 -- Boris Villazón-Terrazas to produce an RDF Schema representation of the R2RML vocabulary terms. -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/140

Boris: I sent the stuff to Ivan

Michael: Ivan is on travel, so it might take a couple of days

close ACTION-140

<trackbot> ACTION-140 Produce an RDF Schema representation of the R2RML vocabulary terms. closed

<scribe> ACTION: Boris to create RDFa representation of R2RML vocab [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - Create RDFa representation of R2RML vocab [on Boris Villazón-Terrazas - due 2011-09-27].

ACTION-156?

<trackbot> ACTION-156 -- Boris Villazón-Terrazas to update term map diagram with rr:constant -- due 2011-09-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/156

close ACTION-156

<trackbot> ACTION-156 Update term map diagram with rr:constant closed

Last Call handling

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Last_Call

Michael: comments will come in via http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/
... the LC docs are now online via http://www.w3.org/TR/r2rml/
... and http://www.w3.org/TR/rdb-direct-mapping/

<Ashok> Congratulations to the WG!

<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to describe the low-ball approach of just using the mailing list

<Ashok> Thanks to the editors and others for all the hard work!

Eric: one way to do this is to track stuff in the mailing list
... some will do one issue per mail, other may not

Ashok: So, we don't have to create issues for the comments

Eric: no, esp. not for simple editorial stuff, rest has to be discussed

Michael: I'd like to provide appropriate, in-time responses

Eric: Agreed, within a couple of days is fine
... I suggest that the one of the Editors of the respective document gets back to the person who provides feedback within three days

Richard: I roughly agree with Eric
... for editorial issues, we try to fix is, for others Editors raise and issue

Ashok: Separate product

Richard: we can reuse R2RML and DM

Michael: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/WD-r2rml-20110920/ and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/WD-rdb-direct-mapping-20110920/

<ericP> lots of comments will be from folks who either have not noticed answer in the spec (at least in the view of the editors).

<ericP> in these cases, the solution is often answering the comment by quoting from the spec.

<ericP> these sometimes result in editorial clarifications in the document.

<Ashok> Yes, there will be many minor comments based on misunderstandings

<cygri> Souri: cvs up -d

Richard: I had a look at the changes
... thanks for making improvements
... I noted some troublesome things
... how to handle it?

<ericP> juansequeda, Marcelo, the xmlspec xslt would have to be tweaked a lot to produce valid HTML.

<ericP> i think the xmlspec-ness has been useful, but for minor changes, i think we're fine just working with an HTML version copied from the pub'd doc.

<ericP> y'all down with that?

Richard: seems multiple predicate map have gone

Michael: I guess it boils down to the question: should WG members write LC comments via http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/ or not?

Eric: not a clear process here

<Souri> The second WD seems to have it as a single PredicateMap, single ObjectMap per PredicateObjectMap: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-r2rml-20110324/#TriplesMapClass_predicateObjectMap_Property

Ashok: People from the WG should also use the official route via public-rdb2rdf-comments

<ericP> well, that reflects a natural tention between perfection and immediacy

PROPOSAL: For all LC comments that come on via via public-rdb2rdf-comments@w3 till 1 Nov, one of the doc Editor reacts within (ideally) three days, creating issues in the tracker for non-editorial issues. The same procedure applies for WG members.

<ericP> sparql, first and foremost

<Souri> In DAWG, if I remember correctly, comments from WG members did not go into the public comments list

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Last_Call#Transition_Notice_to_W3C

<cygri> +1

<boris> +1

RESOLUTION: For all LC comments that come on via via public-rdb2rdf-comments@w3 till 1 Nov, one of the doc Editor reacts within (ideally) three days, creating issues in the tracker for non-editorial issues. The same procedure applies for WG members

Michael: let's do outreach

<Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask about slides

<Ashok> Good suggestion re. slide set

Richard: are there slide set?

Michael: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Main_Page#Presentations.2C_Outreach_and_Tutorials
... Good point, let's collect slide sets a the above Wiki location

<ericP> there are some relevent slides starting around http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/0628-kcap-egp/#(5)

Michael: next week myself and Richard will be on travel, regrets in advance

Ashok: I can chair, next week, yes

Michael: I think we should focus implementations and TC
... see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations
... I'll prepare the agenda in advance

[meeting adjourned]

trackbot, end telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Boris to create RDFa representation of R2RML vocab [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]
 
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