<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6c266f105ceb r6361 10/ (index complete.html source):
<CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Make setInterval() clamp at 4ms as well.
<CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12285
<pimpbot> 1112285: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make setInterval() clamp at 4ms as well. (whatwg r6362) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0022.html> 4** hixie: forgot the domintro section for this (whatwg r6361) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0021.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12285] setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0559.html> 4** [Bug 12285] setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0558.html> 4** [Bug 13651] New: Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length. <11htt
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13652] New: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-samp-element Suggestion: add that samp shall not be used to show layman examples. samp is for computer output, not everyday examples. For instance : "Some fruits (<samp>apples, oranges</samp>) are very popula <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0562.html> 4** [Bug 13586] [html5] Input attributes allow form tampering <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pu
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13544] Video: <track> element should allow support of more than one format without content sniffing <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0563.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13653] New: For PRE element "In the HTML syntax, a leading newline character immediately following the pre element start tag is stripped." The same should hold true for code also, when use inside a pre (<pre><code> my code </code></pre>) If not in the spec, could you <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0565.html> 4** [Bug 13651] Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions ov
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13656] New: add examples of use of input, button, select etc. outside of form element <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0568.html> 4** [Bug 13655] New: Support for viewports and positions <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0567.html> 4** [Bug 13654] New: 3.5.1 does unregistering event listeners include AT? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13665] New: Need to define model for focus order and how to keyboard out of frame <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0580.html> 4** [Bug 13664] New: what events are fired when iframe seemless attribute is changed dynamically? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0579.html> 4** [Bug 13663] New: 4.8.2 how does seemless iframe impact a11y api? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13667] New: Title attribute is overloaded <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0584.html> 4** [Bug 13666] New: Improve handling of footnotes and endnotes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0583.html> 4** [Bug 12590] @role=presentation for IMG should also require that @title is empty <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0581.html> 4** [Bu
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13668] New: Generated content must be accessible <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0586.html> 4** [Bug 13544] Video: <track> element should allow support of more than one format without content sniffing <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0585.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13067] Password hashing <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0588.html> 4** [Bug 13669] New: Indicating batch changes to the DOM <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0587.html> 4** [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0590.html> 4** [Bug 13668] Generated content must be accessible <11http://
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0593.html>
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: Add an example for <wbr>. (whatwg r6363) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0023.html>
<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 061184bb0909 r6362 10/ (index complete.html source):
<CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Add an example for <wbr>.
<CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12655
<pimpbot> 1112655: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0596.html> 4** [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 0fb8b39c78f9 r6363 10/ (source complete.html):
<CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Remove the structed data support from Web Storage.
<CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111
<pimpbot> 1112111: mike, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, 13spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior
<pimpbot> changes: webstorage; hixie: Remove the structed data support from Web Storage. (whatwg r6364) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0024.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13203] There does not seem to be a way to cancel a drag and drop operation at a point later than when `dragenter` fires. Often it is useful to be able to cancel it when the draggable item is dropped, when you know where it is being dropped. I think it would be g <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0599.html> 4** [Bug 13113] Parsing algorithm should not preclude Complex Ruby <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pu
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13604] CDATA sections are no allowed except in foreign content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0602.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13637] Cue rendering+behavior spec text should generic, not webvtt-derived <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0606.html> 4** [Bug 13625] There is no way to pass audio and video content metadata to the user agent that is required in some cases for playback. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0605.html> 4** [Bug 13624] The pause-on-exit flag should lead to the paused for u
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13138] DOM Core: set concept-document-media-type <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0612.html> 4** [Bug 13333] audio, video (and source) elements require param children or equivalent <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0609.html> 4** [Bug 13649] Expose SVG <title> and <desc> to AAPIs <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0607.html> 4** [
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13671] New: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6359&to=6360 - shouldn't it be "If <var title="">n</var> is greater than *zero*" ? (step 4 says "If n is zero...") <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0613.html> 4** [Bug 13671] http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6359&to=6360 - shouldn't it be "If <var title="">n</var> is greater than *zero*" ? (step 4 says "If n is zero...") <11http://lists.
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0619.html> 4** [Bug 13357] Additional AudioTrack.kind categories are needed to identify tracks where audio descriptions are premixed with main dialogue. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0618.htm
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13142] Typo: "even when the response do include a recognized challenge" "do" -> "does" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0621.html> 4** [Bug 13647] Treat math @alttext as equivalent to @aria-label <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0622.html> 4** [Bug 13608] Add <menuitem> element <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0620.html>
<pimpbot> changes: annevk: consistify with DOM Core et al <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0026.html> 4** annevk: move to Anolis <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0025.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0623.html> 4** [Bug 13668] Generated content must be accessible <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0626.html> 4** [Bug 13665] Need to define model for focus order and how to keyboard out of frame <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0629.html> 4** [Bug 13664]
<pimpbot> changes: annevk: use Anolis for references <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0027.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0631.html> 4** [Bug 13672] New: The casing of both 'pubdate' and 'datetime' is inconsistent with IDL. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0630.html> 4** [Bug 13667] Title attribute is overloaded <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/
<pimpbot> changes: annevk: generate xref xspec using Anolis <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0028.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13656] add examples of use of input, button, select etc. outside of form element <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0636.html> 4** [Bug 13655] Support for viewports and positions <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0637.html> 4** [Bug 13654] 3.5.1 does unregistering event listeners include AT? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0641.html
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13332] Very annoying dropdowns hide the content I want to read and I can't get rid of them <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0642.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Bruce: HTML5: notes for analysts and journalists <11http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/html5-notes-for-analysts-and-journalists/> 4** Bruce: Hello, Adobe Edge! <11http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/hello-adobe-edge/> 4** sheppy: Firefox 6 docs: done (for a flexible definition of “done”) <11http://www.bitstampede.com/2011/08/04/firefox-6-docs-done-for-a-flexible-definition-of-done/>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13602] autoassist attribute for input element <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0643.html>
<CIA-1> validator: 03Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 1ecab80ee121 r665 10syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/MetaName.java: Refresh meta name registry.
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11486] Remove rel=archives in favor of rel=index. They are extremely similar and not that useful to have separately. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0644.html>
<Julian> Zakim doesn't seem to be here.
<janina> There is a call today, though, yes?
<rubys1> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 04 August 2011
<mjs> rubys1: I'm scribing today, right?
<rubys1> mjs, yes, please
<mjs> do I need to do anything else to make the bots aware that I am scribing?
<rubys1> scribenick: rubys
<rubys1> oops
<rubys1> scribenick: mjs
rubys: none
rubys: none
ISSUE-153?
<trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: ISSUE-153 and ISSUE-154
did not receive any counter-proposals
... both proceeded to a call for consensus
ISSUE-166?
<trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: We received a proposal,
have given feedback
... issued a call for counter-proposals
<Zakim> adrianba, you wanted to ask about ISSUE-166 change proposal
adrianba: Does the new proposal meet the requirements?
rubys: we will chat about it and send a response to the list
ISSUE-167?
<trackbot> ISSUE-167 -- Remove the crossorigin attribute and CORS normative dependency -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/167
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-167: Remove the crossorigin attribute and CORS normative dependency - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: no change proposals received; closed without prejudice
ISSUE-164?
<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-168?
<trackbot> ISSUE-168 -- Remove typemustmatch -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/168
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-168: Remove typemustmatch - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Issues 164 and 168 closed
recently
... got proposals / counters; we will take the appropriate next
step
ISSUE-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: on ISSUE-133 we were asked to make a 6-week extension; expires in 2 days
ISSUE-165?
<trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- Drop rel=pingback -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/165
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-165: Drop rel=pingback - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13140] The info box mentions the track.label attribute twice (the first should be track.kind) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0648.html> 4** [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0646.html> 4** [Bug 13032] "allow-plugins" option for iframe sandbox attribute <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bug
rubys: First is issue 165, which closes on the 9th
ISSUE-153?
<trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: we have calls for
consensus on 153 and 154, both of which close on the 10th
... next up is new calls this week
rubys: skipping 153 and 154 (just
covered)
... CfC: Adopt Decision Policy Version 2, closes on the
16th
<rubys1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0030.html
<pimpbot> Title: CfC: Adopt Decision Policy Version 2 from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-02 (public-html@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
ISSUE-166?
<trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: on issue 166 we have a call for alternate proposals, closes on the 30th
rubys: none
rubys: none
<krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Aug/0000.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 7/26/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-08-04 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: discussion of using
PHP
... there are MIME type issues on the testing site
... Microsoft submitted some structured clone tests
... other stuff going on...
... a couple of new participants
... new person from Mozilla, jwatts
rubys: any questions?
... moving on to Accessibility Task Force
janina: I'm confident that we
have done a thorough job of looking for accessibility issues in
the spec
... filed quite a few bugs; that has been our foucs
... 100 bugs filed, maybe more
rubys: any questions?
... Other Business
<rubys1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
<pimpbot> 1113101: mike, P1, RESOLVED NEEDSINFO, 13TAG issue on HTML+RDFa and Microdata last call drafts
rubys: Overdue P1 bug (was
overdue, now resolved)
... Last Call Closure Logistics
... Created new components to track LC bugs (bugs opened by the
date)
ruby: will get responses to each of those bugs
rubys: Currently just under 500 bugs unresolved
rubys: any volunteers?
... hearing none, Maciej and I will probably swap places as
scribe and chair
rubys: we are now adjourned
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