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bug 9656

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9656

DB: if labelledby points to element with role="presentation", FF will not use it in the name calculation

CS: IE will use it in the name calculation

DB: is this an author error?

CS: seems like it should be okay - role="presentation" just turns things into <span>
... presentation takes out structure but not the text
... using aria-labeled by to point to a <span> element is okay so this should be too

DB: FF uses the accessibility tree when calculating the name so that's why it won't be used
... it's just a text node among other sibling text nodes

CS: think IE calculates the name before structuring the tree

AS: since the name calculation rules don't have any exception for role="presentation", does this mean FF is not compliant?

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_additional_nd

DB: if the ARIA TF thinks that this is not an author error and it should be used in the name calculation, will file a bug

AS: put this issue on the agenda for the Monday ARIA TF call

bug 11514

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11514

AS: David gave the events for aria-hidden but what about the rest of the table?

DB: haven't reviewed it yet

CS: going on vacation the 24th, can have stuff done on the 11th

AS: I'm on vacation the 11th and the 18th so can we move the call to the 10th and 17th

DB: out on vacation 8/15 - 8/26

CS: out 8/25 - 9/7

AS: out 8/11 - 8/12, 8/18 & 8/19, 9/2 - 9/9

move 8/11 meeting to 8/10 at 3 PM ET

move 8/18 meeting to 8/17 at 4 PM ET

move 8/25 meeting to 8/24 at 1 PM ET

issue 444

AS: discsussed at F2F and thought we agreed that UAs would not change the DOM. Can we move this to 2.0?

action Andi to check the minutes from the f2f - if not closed, create a bug and assign to Cynthia to check with Larry

bug 13258

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13258

in Selection section, remove first 3 bullets above the table as they are covered in the S&P Mapping Table

bullet 4 is related to ISSUE 444

bug - David - check this table

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Got date from IRC log name: 28 Jul 2011
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/07/28-aapi-minutes.html
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