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<antoine> Previous: 2011-07-07 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html
<digikim_> I just joined before Marcia
<tbaker> s/macha/Marcia/
<antoine> zakin, ??P32 is digikim_
<digikim_> thanks :) forgot to join the irc before calling
<antoine> zakinm, jeff_.a is michaelp
<marcia> Next week
<marcia> I am on a cell phone now
<antoine> Scribe: Jeff
<antoine> Scribenick: jeff_
RESOLUTION: accept minutes from last call
No telecon next week, but the ones left are important
The blog is up and some comments are coming in
Keeping track of commentary/reviews at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
Need a new volunteer to track late coming comments.
Jeff volunteers
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to ask if Daniel cannot do it?
<scribe> ACTION: Karen Coyle to keep track of comments on the mailing list between July 8 and July 15 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to keep track of comments on the mailing list between July 15 and July 22 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Editors of each section should watch for substantial comments to their section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: chairs to send email to list asking for volunteers to write the executive summary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<GordonD> I will volunteer to help Karen
<GordonD> +1 for the three of us on a telecon ...
<GordonD> +1 makes four
<scribe> ACTION: Karen, Tom, Michael, and Gordon to write the executive summary due in two weeks. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-lld-minutes.html#action05]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ExecutiveSummary
karen: one to 1 1/2 page for the executive summary
Tom: more or less as needed
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jul/0022.html
<scribe> ACTION: Karen and Emma to write a sentence adding cultural and memory institutions together in some way [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]
Any issues to report?
No comments.
Antoine: started to address 1st set of comments and confident the issues can be integrated.
<GordonD> Action on Gordon is now done
<scribe> ACTION: Gordon to review Relevant Technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/09-lld-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
<antoine> --DONE
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jul/0029.html
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to ask about PIDs as raised by Juha
<antoine> Alexander: need to ack that a URN is a URI
Tom: Juha commented on reference to Cool URIs vs. other forms of persistent URIs. Deserves some more subtle wording to accommodate URNs.
<antoine> Jeff: Agreed. I 'll work on it
<antoine> ... Gordon also commented on this.
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to point Jeff to http://metadaten-twr.org/2010/10/13/persistent-identifiers-an-overview/
Alex: need to accommodate URNs better.
Tom: we need to acknowledge other
URI schemes
... best practice is still evolving.
... Need to point to larger discussion.
<digikim_> +1
<antoine> Alex: anyone tried URN in SPARQL?
<marcia> There was a circulated reference link yesterday: What Do URIs Mean Anyway? http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/159
<antoine> Jeff: id.loc.gov has owl:sameAs to URNs
<antoine> ... they're not resolvable
<antoine> .. ideally using owl:sameAs you would link URNs to resolvable URIS
<antoine> (Antoine remembers having done something like that with ARK ids)
<tbaker> Juha's comments are at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2011Jun/0012.html
<GordonD> It might be useful to add something about sameAs linking between resolvable and unresolvable IDs in the relevant technologies section? Or is this an Issue requiring a Recommendation?
<antoine> Jeff: one http-14 was around, it went clearer
<AlexanderH> +1 gordon
<antoine> Jeff: it's worth mentioning
<antoine> Tom: not elevating to recommendation
<antoine> Jeff And Tom: we agree
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to integrated more refined view of non-resolvable URIs and linking. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-lld-minutes.html#action08]
Jeff will review blog entries for reusable statements.
<antoine> gordon: main issue is mixing different levels
<antoine> Jeff: all feedback helps
<scribe> ACTION: everybody to scrutinize the relevant technologies to solve the issue of mising different levels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-lld-minutes.html#action09]
<scribe> ACTION: Karen will convene issues and recommendations group to identify things that need to be discussed with larger group for July 21 meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-lld-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]
Karen: these two sections were
put together as background. They stay in the wiki, but can be
used as a checklist for the report section.
... the blog appears to be broken in a new way.
<pmurray> Oh, that is odd.
Tom: It looks like a temporary issue.
Karen: Comments are coming into
the blog and will be processed.
... The comments so far haven't been radical and can probably
be integrated.
Antoine: the comments don't appear to be spam
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/05/19-lld-minutes.html#action13] [DONE]
Antoine: not much to say. Other comments?
<scribe> ACTION: Emma to review use cases and make comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]
Comments?
Any other business?
<antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jul/0021.html
<antoine> http://www.slideshare.net/TalisConsulting/linked-data-workshop-stanford-university
Antoine: Presentation on Linked
Data at Stanford that has overlap with our group.
... Would be nice if our report related to theirs
... Anyone involved?
<kcoyle> http://inkdroid.org/journal/2011/07/14/stanford-linked-data-meeting-notes-an-incidental-manifesto/
<kcoyle> edsu's notes
We should discuss their report later.
<digikim_> Thanks to everybody. I will be taking my Summer vacation in August, so this was unfortunately the final call for me. I will be looking forward on what reactions the report gets when it is finalized and published. :)
Antoine: Thanks for contributing Kim.
Meeting is ajourned.
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