<pimpbot> planet: Oli Studholme: A love letter to the CSS Working Group <11http://oli.jp/2011/csswg-love/> 4** Oli Studholme: CSS3 Flexbox vs A Princess Bride <11http://oli.jp/2011/css3-flexbox/>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13167] New: Using an existing application cache without having a master entry in the application group (cache the master entry) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0249.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13168] New: Creating or using an existing application cache without caching the master entry <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0250.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13169] New: Why aren't placeholders available on Date/Time fields? It seems to me they should. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0251.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Oli Studholme: Blockquote problems and solutions <11http://oli.jp/2011/blockquote/>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13170] New: Inconsistent "fallback name" vs "fallback property name" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0252.html> 4** [Bug 13170] Inconsistent "fallback name" vs "fallback property name" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0253.html> 4** [Bug 13169] Why aren't placeholders available on Date/Time fields? It seems to me they should. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13060] Consider MJPG files like <video> when used as the image argument for drawImage() <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0255.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Mounir Lamouri: The HTML progress element in Firefox <11http://blog.oldworld.fr/index.php?post/2011/07/The-HTML5-progress-element-in-Firefox>
<Julian> hsivonen, you there?
<pimpbot> planet: Phillip Smith: Learning lab schedule: week-by-week. Plus: new lecture by @iA CEO Oliver Reichenstein <11http://www.phillipadsmith.com/2011/07/learning-lab-schedule-week-by-week-plus-new-lecture-by-ia-ceo-oliver-reichenstein.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13171] New: Status boxes overlap <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0256.html> 4** [Bug 13171] Status boxes overlap <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0257.html>
<MikeSmith> issue-163?
<trackbot> ISSUE-163 -- Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/163
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-163: Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<paulc> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 07 July 2011
<pimpbot> changes: sam: Change proposal for issue 165 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jul/0003.html>
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-07-07: Actions, Issue status Decisions, TF reports, TAG issue from Paul Cotton on 2011-07-05 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from July to September 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
paulc: There are none
paulc: There are none
ISSUE-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13173] New: <input type="url"> should accept URLs with protocol omitted <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0258.html> 4** [Bug 13173] <input type="url"> should accept URLs with protocol omitted <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jul/0259.html>
ISSUE-150?
<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-150: consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-163?
<trackbot> ISSUE-163 -- Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/163
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-163: Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: ISSUE-163 closed without prejudice
ISSUE-164?
<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: two change proposals received
ISSUE-151?
<trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-151: Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: call for counter proposals closes tomorrow
ISSUE-165?
<trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- Drop rel=pingback -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/165
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-165: Drop rel=pingback - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution closes Jul 12
ISSUE-150?
<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-150: consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: same as ISSUE-134, no counter proposals received
paulc: There are none
ISSUE-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-150?
<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-150: consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-164?
<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: Call for Counter-Proposals closes Aug 2
ISSUE-168?
<trackbot> ISSUE-168 -- Remove typemustmatch -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/168
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-168: Remove typemustmatch - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: Call for Change Proposals
closes Aug 2
... empties queue of outstanding issues
paulc: There are none
ISSUE-163?
<trackbot> ISSUE-163 -- Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/163
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-163: Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: no change proposals received, closed without prejudice
paulc: No report from testing task force, they're meeting next week
janina: biggest issue is
canvas
... need a little bit more to make it accessible
<paulc> thanks Julian.
janina: rich will be filing two
bugs
... media group has had major progress in handling hierarchical
navigation
... might require little or no change to existing spec
... down to two approaches
... may need an additional attribute
... once we've tested impls of solutions, will want informative
text in spec
... re: poster="" alt text, may need decision
reconsidered
... aria-describedby won't cut it
... working on refining the figcaption decision
... working on proposals to deal with corner cases
... plan to post examples to list where it breaks
... re: considering a change proposal for table summary
paulc: making progress on many
fronts
... i suggested the tf file granular bugs re: canvas
accessibility
... request p1 so they will be addressed asap
... rich will take on that action very soon
paulc: manu sent note to TAG with
membership suggestions for TF
... reply & volunteer to join if anyone is interested
... we've opened two bugs
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13100
<pimpbot> 1113100: mike+html-wg-mailbot, P1, NEW, 13TAG issue on HTML+RDFa and Microdata last call drafts
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
<pimpbot> 1113101: mike, P1, ASSIGNED, 13TAG issue on HTML+RDFa and Microdata last call drafts
paulc: discussion happening in
both bugs
... if interested, cc yourself on the bugs
paulc: status of publication of "author-only" view Working Draft, Mike Smith
MikeSmith: it's not yet
published
... working on making the js popups keyboard accessible
... adding tabindex, aria markup to the popup markup
... breaks pubrules
... which require HTML4 or XHTML 1 doctype
... would validate if the document had HTML5 doctype
... working on resolving this, talking to plh and others
... will email list when progress is made
paulc: do we have a bug on the documents re: publishing them in html5?
MikeSmith: there was one on the
polyglot spec
... it's been published with html5 doctype
rubys: polyglot spec was
published as XHTML5
... so it's not a clear precedent here
paulc: please continue negotiating with pubrules team etc
<rubys> +1
MikeSmith: aiming to get this resolved by the end of next week
<paulc> The WG appreciates all the "heavy lifting" on publication of documents that Mike is doing.
janina: should be able to publish HTML4+ARIA soon
MikeSmith: that's not a solution
for me
... I think it's pretty important for this group to be able to
publish its documents in its own doctype
... working towards getting the comm team to agree
paulc: registration period has
just opened
... TPAC is first week of November, at the Marriott in Santa
Clara
... HTML WG meeting that Thurs/Fri
... we have two rooms booked
... will likely do two-track unconference like the last two
years
... W3C asks participants to book at event hotel, helps with
total costs
paulc: mjs' turn to chair
... no volunteers to scribe
<adrianba> regrets for next week
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