<Daniel> item: reporting the status of API doc by Florian

<Daniel> via teleconf

api document

<wbailer> scribenick: werner

<wbailer> florian reports on status of api doc

<wbailer> florian needs updated list of wg members in acknowledgements

<wbailer> thierry proposes to copy from cr version of ontology doc

<wbailer> ACTION: florian to check term method/operation in the web idl spec and update api doc accordingly [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-425 - Check term method/operation in the web idl spec and update api doc accordingly [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> proposal to move section 4.4 forward, to have the definition before examples are introduced

<wbailer> florian prefers to keep structure, as it is more logical

<wbailer> ACTION: florian to add explaination to introduce mediaannotation object in sections 4.2 and 4.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-426 - Add explaination to introduce mediaannotation object in sections 4.2 and 4.3 [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> ACTION: werner to propose updates to api doc abstract [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-427 - Propose updates to api doc abstract [on Werner Bailer - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> ACTION: florian to delete noerrostatus block from 4.5 examples [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-428 - Delete noerrostatus block from 4.5 examples [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> ACTION: florian to drop status codes 262 thru 264 and references to them [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-429 - Drop status codes 262 thru 264 and references to them [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> line break issue: florian to contact robin concerning line breaks in the web idl code

<wbailer> if we have no response before publishing, thierry will insert edits

<wbailer> bullet list formating: change to ui to ul in beginning of sections 3 and 4

<wbailer> references: florian to ask robin what the policy for updating is

<wbailer> thierry: when will the doc be finalised to go to 2nd lc?

<wbailer> florian will work on edits today

<wbailer> freeze doc before next telco and vote about going to 2nd lc

<wbailer> thierry: we could publish on 2nd lc on tue 12th

<wbailer> ... we should give 3 week review time

<stegmai> http://www.mmweb2011.org/+

<tmichel> Please redial with "CONF2 " code

<tmichel> Florian, Please redial Zakim with "CONF2 " code

<wbailer> dates for next F2F: 6-7 Sept

<wbailer> colocated with I-Know / I-Semantics in Graz, AT

<stegmai> :)

<wbailer> http://prestoprime.joanneum.at

<joakim> http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/finding-media-illustrating-events

<joakim> Xueliang Liu, Raphaël Troncy, and Benoit Huet. 2011. Finding media illustrating events. In Proceedings of the 1st ACM International Conference on Multimedia Retrieval (ICMR '11). ACM, New York, NY, USA, , Article 58 , 8 pages. DOI=10.1145/1991996.1992054 http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1991996.1992054

finishing review of ontology examples

<wbailer> media rss example

Verifying MRSS files

<Joakim> mediaresource should be declared

<wbailer> http://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/irc/irc.cgi

<jsderber> lang should be changed to hasLanguage

<jsderber> locator is ok

<jsderber> contributor ok

<jsderber> creator ok

<jsderber> update mapping table to say N/A

<jsderber> location ok

<jsderber> decriptino is ok

<jsderber> keyword is ok

<jsderber> update genre, drop "decription" and change examples

<jsderber> rating ok

<jsderber> collection ok

<jsderber> copyright ok

<jsderber> policy ok

<jsderber> publisher change to organisation

<jsderber> targetaudience ok

<jsderber> fragements missing!

<jsderber> namedfragements missing!

<jsderber> framesize ok

<jsderber> compression ok

<jsderber> duration ok

<jsderber> format ok

<jsderber> samplingrate ok

<jsderber> framerate ok

<jsderber> averageBitRate ok

<jsderber> numTracks ok

Verifying TXFeed

<jsderber> mediaresource is not declared!

<jsderber> idetifier ok

<jsderber> title ok

<jsderber> locator ok

<jsderber> contributor ok

<jsderber> creator ok

<jsderber> description ok

<jsderber> keyword ok

<jsderber> genre same problem as for MediaRss !

<jsderber> relation is missing!

<jsderber> copyright ok

<jsderber> policy ok

<jsderber> framesize ok

<jsderber> compression ok

<jsderber> duration ok

<jsderber> format ok

<jsderber> samplingRare, frameRate averageBitRate and numTracks ok

review of flash container example

<wbailer> [flv] media resource definition missing

<wbailer> [flv] rdf:datatype is missing

<wbailer> [flv] frameSize should be frameWidth, frameHeight and frameSizeUnit

<wbailer> [flv] duration must be decimal

<wbailer> [flv] average bit rate and number of tracks must be numeric

<wbailer> [flv] numTracks should numberOfTracks

<wbailer> [flv] frameSize, duration, compression, samplingRate, frameRate, averageBitRate and numTracks are present

<wbailer> moving to f4v example

<wbailer> [f4v] same comments as for flv apply

implementations

<wbailer> firefox plugin demo: https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/Multi_Media/

<wbailer> firefox plugin demo: https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/Multi_Media/

<wbailer> firefox plugin demo: https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/Multi_Media/

<wbailer> ACTION: werner to draft text on criteria for test suite together with wonsuk and florian [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-430 - Draft text on criteria for test suite together with wonsuk and florian [on Werner Bailer - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> covering the issues: number of formats per implementation, defining what constitutes a feature, dealing with sync/async case

<wbailer> proposal on this should be discussed in the following weeks

<wbailer> formats supported in implementations: dublin core, mpeg-7, youtube, id3

schema.org

<wbailer> thierry: we are not the only group affected by this

<jsderber> http://schema.org/VideoObject

<wbailer> audio, video, image object directly overlap with MAWG work

<wbailer> rdf mapping has been proposed at http://schema.rdfs.org

<wbailer> ACTION: daniel to get contact information for talking to schema.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel

guidelines for ontology example files

<wbailer> define some guidelines to ensure consistency of updated files

<tmichel> RDF syntax valid

<wbailer> define MediaResource and link description

<wbailer> complete namespace declarations and prefixes

<wbailer> correct use of rdf:dataType

<wbailer> drop ma:identifier in the RDF representation, but use rdf:about and/or rdf:ID instead

<wbailer> try to achieve completeness wrt the properties in the mapping tables

<wbailer> make sure that the vocabulary matches the ontology for media resources

<wbailer> avoid any other properties

<wbailer> make sure that the datatypes are up to date, eg for those that were changed from double to decimal

<wbailer> point to some best practice files as an example

<wbailer> we need to add column to mapping tables to check properties validated in the files

<wbailer> ACTION: thierry to prepare tables with extra column for validating properties mapped in files [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-432 - Prepare tables with extra column for validating properties mapped in files [on Thierry Michel - due 2011-07-06].

<wbailer> table editors to fill the table when updating their files

<wbailer> use green checkmark and red cross to indicate coverage of properties in the files from the testsuite

future directions

<wbailer> there is interest in semantic annotations, cf the discussion on including named graphs when processing lc comments of the ontology doc

<wbailer> participants of the wg to present results in their organisations to raise interest for implementations

<wbailer> apps and cloud services are interesting fields for future implementations of the api

<wbailer> previously collected issues http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Candidate_Additional_Elements

<wbailer> it might be useful to revisit the requirements in the use case doc and check those left aside in the first version

<wbailer> collect future issues at http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Future_issues

<wbailer> all to add input there

<wbailer> wonsuk: possible topic is to extend coverage of metadata, eg add ebook metadata

<wbailer> add more normative mappings in future version

<wbailer> alignment with HTML WG

<wbailer> how to implement api in a harmonised way, eg with webapp

<wbailer> wonsuk: eg filereader api from webapp

<wbailer> wonsuk: we should consider media capture api from dap

<wbailer> how to implement api in a harmonised way, eg with webapp

<wbailer> next telco: 5th of July

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