See also: IRC log
AS: Mac OS X has a special event for changes to live regions
DB: Windows just uses object
... object that is exposed will have object attributes for IA2
AS: role log talks about container-live object attributes for ATK
DB: should also put these under
... also copy object attributes for marquee from ATK to IA2
... ditto for status and tablist
... and timer
CS: live region: any element and its children with aria-live property of "assertive" or "polite" or with role that has implicit value of aria-live="assertive" or "polite"
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to create definition of "live region" per above, add Mac OS X event to the table, and get review by James [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
CS: section 5.2 - first paragraph
needs a re-write, makes it sound like the only element that
should have ARIA attributes is a <div>
... remove first sentence
... sentence that begins with "at times", remove "at times" and change to "WAI-ARIA is sometimes used ...."
... first bullet - 2nd and 3rd sentences - nothing for browser to do
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to check spec and adjust appropriately [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
CS: section 5.5, bullet 2 - don't know what this means
<davidb> original text (aaron) was: "Add in states and object attributes supported by the accessibility implementation for the base markup"
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to remove "and map states and properties that are supported in the API" from Section 5.5, bullet 2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
DB: author wants to use radio buttons as check boxes - expose aria-checked state
FF: addition of a role doesn't circumvent all of the other states that should be supported
AS: if this is not about ARIA, can this just go away
DB: even though there is an ARIA
property, like aria-grabbed, continue to expose checkbox
methods rather than only the ARIA semantics that are
... existence of ARIA attributes do not mean the UA should stop exposing the native semantics the way they normally would
... UA's MUST continue to expose native semantics in addition to WAI-ARIA semantics"
... a better example is aria-labelledby
CS: except where an explicit
WAI-ARIA override is allowed by the host language
... include example of checkbox with aria-labelledby
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to change bullet 2 to "UAs MUST continue to expose native semantics in addition to WAI-ARIA semantics except where an explicit WAI-ARIA override is allowed by the host language" and include checkbox example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html#action04]
CS: bullet 4 seems
... some issues with name calculation
AS: this is the exact text that is in the spec - can't change it
CS: 22.214.171.124 - aria-describedby pointing to structured text - should be a topic for Tuesday's walkthru
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to remove sentence about accessibility tree from 6.3, bullet 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html#action05]
CS: could we get Shawn Henry to do a copy edit pass-through?
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