13:57:27 RRSAgent has joined #aapi 13:57:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc 13:57:33 rrsagent, off 14:13:27 topic: Changes to live regions 14:13:55 AS: Mac OS X has a special event for changes to live regions 14:14:09 DB: Windows just uses object hide/show events 14:15:06 DB: object that is exposed will have object attributes for IA2 14:16:56 AS: role log talks about container-live object attributes for ATK 14:17:24 DB: should also put these under IA2 14:18:04 DB: also copy object attributes for marquee from ATK to IA2 14:18:37 DB: ditto for status and tablist 14:19:43 DB: and timer 14:29:08 CS: live region: any element and its children with aria-live property of "assertive" or "polite" or with role that has implicit value of aria-live="assertive" or "polite" 14:30:40 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-live 14:32:19 action: Andi to create definition of "live region" per above, add Mac OS X event to the table, and get review by James 14:32:30 topic: Cynthia's comments on the UAIG 14:34:29 CS: section 5.2 - first paragraph needs a re-write, makes it sound like the only element that should have ARIA attributes is a
14:35:00 CS: remove first sentence 14:35:51 CS: sentence that begins with "at times", remove "at times" and change to "WAI-ARIA is sometimes used ...." 14:38:52 CS: first bullet - 2nd and 3rd sentences - nothing for browser to do 14:39:08 action: Andi to check spec and adjust appropriately 14:41:10 CS: section 5.5, bullet 2 - don't know what this means 14:42:20 original text (aaron) was: "Add in states and object attributes supported by the accessibility implementation for the base markup" 14:42:34 from: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/ARIA_to_API_mapping#11.3.10_States_and_Properties 14:43:58 action: Andi to remove "and map states and properties that are supported in the API" from Section 5.5, bullet 2 14:45:00 DB: author wants to use radio buttons as check boxes - expose aria-checked state 14:45:40 FF: addition of a role doesn't circumvent all of the other states that should be supported 14:46:50 AS: if this is not about ARIA, can this just go away 14:47:51 MichaelC has joined #aapi 14:48:12 DB: even though there is an ARIA property, like aria-grabbed, continue to expose checkbox methods rather than only the ARIA semantics that are there 14:48:42 DB: existence of ARIA attributes do not mean the UA should stop exposing the native semantics the way they normally would 14:49:11 DB: UA's MUST continue to expose native semantics in addition to WAI-ARIA semantics" 14:50:57 DB: a better example is aria-labelledby 14:52:21 CS: except where an explicit override is allowed by the host language 14:52:41 s/explicit override/explicit WAI-ARIA override/ 14:53:05 CS: include example of checkbox with aria-labelledby 14:54:15 action: Andi to change bullet 2 to "UAs MUST continue to expose native semantics in addition to WAI-ARIA semantics except where an explicit WAI-ARIA override is allowed by the host language" and include checkbox example 15:01:59 CS: bullet 4 seems confusing 15:02:11 CS: some issues with name calculation 15:02:22 AS: this is the exact text that is in the spec - can't change it 15:03:53 CS: 5.6.3.2 - aria-describedby pointing to structured text - should be a topic for Tuesday's walkthru 15:05:55 action: Andi to remove sentence about accessibility tree from 6.3, bullet 1 15:06:53 CS: could we get Shawn Henry to do a copy edit pass-through? 15:07:16 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 15:07:18 -David_Bolter 15:07:19 WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended 15:07:19 zakim, bye 15:07:19 Zakim has left #aapi 15:07:20 Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly, David_Bolter 15:07:30 chair: Cynthia 15:07:38 rrsagent, make minutes 15:07:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-minutes.html Andi 15:21:12 rrsagent, bye 15:21:12 I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-actions.rdf : 15:21:12 ACTION: Andi to create definition of "live region" per above, add Mac OS X event to the table, and get review by James [1] 15:21:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc#T14-32-19 15:21:12 ACTION: Andi to check spec and adjust appropriately [2] 15:21:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc#T14-39-08 15:21:12 ACTION: Andi to remove "and map states and properties that are supported in the API" from Section 5.5, bullet 2 [3] 15:21:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc#T14-43-58 15:21:12 ACTION: Andi to change bullet 2 to "UAs MUST continue to expose native semantics in addition to WAI-ARIA semantics except where an explicit WAI-ARIA override is allowed by the host language" and include checkbox example [4] 15:21:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc#T14-54-15 15:21:12 ACTION: Andi to remove sentence about accessibility tree from 6.3, bullet 1 [5] 15:21:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-aapi-irc#T15-05-55