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WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

01 Jun 2011

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Attendees

Present
Vlad, Jonathan, Christopher, John, Chris
Regrets
Sylvain, jdaggett, Tab
Chair
Vlad
Scribe
ChrisL

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 01 June 2011

<scribe> scribenick: ChrisL

Vlad: want to finalise last call and agree to move to candidate rec

Last Call disposition of comments

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html

ChrisL: I18n was waiting for our specific text before agreeing. I sent some emails pointing to edits that had been done

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-15

ChrisL: we agreed to more clearly indicate the content models. need to agre on text

jfkthame: some new text after description of div and span element
... seems to address this coment. Could add expected children

ChrisL: could add to all the elements their expected children

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-32

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-16

http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/9

"The automatic removal of OpenType features such as GPOS and GSUB information at any stage in the process of deploying a WOFF file is strongly discouraged. Many writing systems around the world rely on these features for very basic display of text in the script that they use."

ChrisL: general guidance not conformance

Vlad: they suggest end of section 5 for that note

jfkthame: could add as informative note
... out of scope as a conformance requirement, but fine as an informative note

Vlad: god to add it as a note for implementors to pay attention to

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html#issue-34

has the edit been done for that?

jfkthame: not sure (checks)
... yes it is there, section 4

Vlad: "searchRange, entrySelector, and rangeShift" are the ones cited
... need to add normative reference

jfkthame: yes

Vlad: sergey wanted these as conformance requirements

"And second, conformance requirements have to mention that these fields should be correct in original font to ensure complete roundtrip."

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0005.html

We were asked to remove the sumary of conformance requirements or to clearly indicate they are informative

jfkthame: what do we want to do? it was specifically requested.
... could clearly see its an informative summary

Vlad: danger is that we miss keeping them in sync. prefer to drop it

ChrisL: agree

jfkthame: early in WG discussions we agreed to have a concie summary

Vlad: worried that we miss something or that people only read the summary

ChrisL: what about the three notes? Should they be relocated?

ACTION jfkthame to remove Summary of Conformance Requirements, relocating any notes that seem valuable to keep

<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Remove Summary of Conformance Requirements, relocating any notes that seem valuable to keep [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].

Vlad: second note is not so valuable. First and third are
... add third to end of section 6
... last one belongs in metadata section

ChrisL: will send folow up emails informing commentors of todays decisions

Vlad: ok so DoC is done, pending responses from I18n

Open Action Items

ACTION-62: Modify spec text re. div and span in text elements

<trackbot> ACTION-62 Modify spec text re. div and span in text elements notes added

Vlad: seems logical to add to description of text element. but putting it before extension element i seems out of place

ChrisL: seemed clear enouh to me

jfkthame: how avout putting it at end after extension element

Vlad: seems to interrupt the flow of the description

jfkthame: arguments against several options

Vlad: proposed in email was to append to 'may be localised' and put div and span right before that.

cslye: sounds good

Vlad: jfkthame its up to you

jfkthame: cslye which ioption sounded good?

<cslye> after extension element.

Vlad: it would be fine after the extension element

jfkthame: close and add new action

close action-62

<trackbot> ACTION-62 Modify spec text re. div and span in text elements closed

<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to relocate text describing div and span [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Relocate text describing div and span [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].

action-74?

<trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Chris Lilley to update disposition of comments -- due 2011-02-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74

ChrisL: keep open untilwe are done

action-76?

<trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Maciej Stachowiak to ask apple about proposed FO solution -- due 2011-02-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76

close action-76

<trackbot> ACTION-76 Ask apple about proposed FO solution closed

Vlad: apple will give resources to develop From-Origin

action-81?

<trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Jonathan Kew to provide link for issue-34 -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81

this is the link to the OT spec

for earchRange, entrySelector, and rangeShift

jfkthame: relaod, i just commited an edit with that

close action-81

<trackbot> ACTION-81 Provide link for issue-34 closed

ChrisL: can we change 'are expected to' to 'SHOULD'

<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to move BCP47 to normative and change are expected to to SHOULD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Move BCP47 to normative and change are expected to to SHOULD [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].

action-83?

<trackbot> ACTION-83 -- Chris Lilley to to add div and span to RNG -- due 2011-04-13 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/83

ChrisL: in progress

Progressing to Candidate Rec

Vlad: once these edits are done and DoC up to date as agreed, can we agree to move to CR?

(no objections)

<scribe> ACTION: jfkthame to add expected children of all metadata elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Add expected children of all metadata elements [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-06-08].

Resolved: move to Candidate Recommendation once these edits are done

f2f at typecon

Vlad: not enouh participants for a meeting aty typecon

<cslye> Vlad, at your convenience can you summarize who in the WG will be at TypeCon?

Vlad: next steps are checking the test suite and creating an implementation report

then we get to PR

scribe: depends on CSS WG due to SOR dependency

<John> [Sorry I'm late]

Vlad (explains CR)

Vlad: EPUB wants to reference WOFF so they need it to be in CR

John: f2f?

Vlad: few confirmed attendees and several regrets
... so no meeting at typecon

adjourned

Vlad: travel next week. Do we need a telcon?

June 8 telcon cancelled

John: FAQ updated?

ChrisL: reall soon now (been ill)

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to add expected children of all metadata elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to move BCP47 to normative and change are expected to to SHOULD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: jfkthame to relocate text describing div and span [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/01-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
 
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