WebID Incubator Group Teleconference -- 25 Jan 2011

<trackbot> Date: 25 January 2011

<bblfish> yes, did not seem to work for me either

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<trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 25 January 2011

<bblfish> ok that seemed to work

<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas

<bblfish> Mhh, I get insufficient access priviledges

refresh

<bblfish> ah yes it works now

<bblfish> are you closer to the server?

<bblfish> ah ok

<bblfish> well I can set a −1 agenda

<bblfish> the agenda of testing the system before the session begins

<pchampin> Hi all

<pchampin> the "insufficient privilege" is a classic

<pchampin> I have it alm the time

<laszlo> hi all

<pchampin> it stops after a while

<bblfish> what is on the agenda?

<pchampin> I guess it's related to my "invited expert" status

<bblfish> is it going to get that agenda autmoatically?

<bblfish> ah ok

<bblfish> what is on the agenda

<gaedke> hi there

<bblfish> ?what is on the agenda

<bblfish> what is on the agenda?

<gaedke> aaaa is gaedke

<sandro> scribe needs to go to another meeting.

<domel> Do you hear me on the phone?

<csarven> Hmm, I wonder which is me

<sandro> Zakim is slow.....

<reto> yeah this is true

domel, what is your phone number

<melvster> hi all

<bblfish> yes

<domel> i phone to +1-617-761-6200 than enter the code. Should I do more?

<domel> I hear one voice

<domel> I phone from Skype

<mischat> conference code is 93243

<csarven> I hear you guys.. but no idea how to identify myself since it doesn't know which connection belongs to me :)

<domel> I phone again

<reto> how to tell Zakim the phone number?

<csarven> Zakim unmute ??P34

<melvster> i can dial in, but it didnt add or withdraw me

<AlexPassant> yep

<AlexPassant> slot free - first come first served :)

<domel> the # I shoud enter after the code or before?

domel after the code

<bblfish> should I try to call in again?

<bblfish> yes

<bblfish> ah got it

<melvster> he needs the w3c server

<melvster> not freenode

<yngve> FYI, yngve is on the phone, I don't know which IP phone I am

<melvster> irc.w3.org:6665

<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Jan/0010.html

<domel> someone hear me?

<scorlosq> +1.781.866.aagg is scorlosq

no, domel

<reto> what's that phone number format?

Admin

<reto> it said it disdsn't recognized my

<bblfish> hi

<mischat> hi

<laszlo> hi

<melvster> hi

<domel> enter phone number, than code, than #. What I shoud do more to speak?

<reto> and recoggnizes those numbers with dots and chars

<guido> hi

<gaedke> hi

<claudio> hi

<gburel> hi

<scorlosq> Zakim: I am +1.781.866.aagg

<sandro> someone is breathing loudly

<bblfish> how do you tell if we are maxed out?

<melvster> webid is exploding already! :)

<csarven> I am ??P34

<melvster> he needs the other server

<melvster> irc.w3.org:6665

<scorlosq> port 21 should work too

<mischat> yes

Introduction

<guido> Here

<csarven> ??P34 is csarven

<csarven> Zakim ??P34 is csarven

<bblfish> http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-protocols/2008-October/000000.html

Henry: initiator of FOAF+SSL/WebID

<bblfish> Bruno Harbulot

Henry: Bruno pointed out the X509 part

<mischat> Bruno Harbulot : http://www.harbulot.com/

<mischat> alphabetically

<sandro> People with W3C Member access can see full names and details at: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=46065

<sandro> Martin Gaedke

Martin G: scientist at TU Chemintz

Martin: apply these technologies in EC project (OMLETTE)

<sandro> Michael Hausenblas

<gaedke> Martin Gaedke is Full Professor for Distributed and Self-organizing Systems at Chemnitz University of Technology in Germany and head of the VSR Group.

<gaedke> Our research focus is on collaboration and the social computer in general, and especially on federated web applications.

<gaedke> In this context we developed the IdFS system, which deals with WS-Federation, OpenId, Social Aspects and of course WebId is now on the agenda.

Michael: see it in the bigger picture of write-enabled Linked Data Web

<sandro> Pierre-Antoine Champin

<gaedke> Besides we apply these technologies in our European FP7 Omelette which deals with mashups for telcos.

<mischat> sandro: pchampin is talking

<sandro> The PUBLIC list of participants (without pictures and phone numbers) is here, just fixed: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=46065&public=1

Pierre: scientist in Uni Lyon
... interested it Semantic Web

<sandro> (er, with pictures. without EMAIL and phone numbers.)

Pierre: user interaction, in particular re identity

<pchampin> http://champin.net/

<sandro> Claudio Venezia

Claudio: Telecom Italia
... was in Social Web XG
... we're interested in the entire eco-system
... in particular FP7 project SOCIETIES
... social pervasive services (sensors, etc)
... on and off the Web

<sandro> Stéphane Corlosquet

Stephane: ... work at General Hospital in Boston
... work on collaborative software
... one of the core devs of Drupal 7
... was in DERI doing my Masters
... and maintaining the Drupal WebID module

<sandro> Reto Bachmann-Gmür

Reto: I'm interested in SW, social software
... earlier works: knobot
... now working on Apache Clerezza
... a framework that makes building SW app easy

<sandro> Sandro Hawke

sandro: W3C staff, eGov god, and SW master mind

Henry: US gov seems to be interested in the ID stuff?

<mischat> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/white-house-to-establish-internet-ids-20110121-19zym.html

sandro: yes, will try to find out more

Mischa: work at Garlik, FOAF stuff, 4store and 5store
... was on Social Web XG as well

<melvster> i know how to do that but zakim didnt pick up my dial in, or dial out

<bblfish> echo Zakim, aakk is bblfish

<melvster> il redial in

Sarven: Master student at DERI
... work on Linked Data stuff
... want to see WebID in other platforms (like mobiles) used

Yngve: I'm from Opera, working in security (TLS)
... mostly active in IETF so far
... hope to provide some valuable input

Henry: there are quite some people from Opera

yngve: yes, covering different areas (server side, desktop, etc.)

jeffsayre: hey, I'm Jeff
... bridging technical and business side
... currently some self-funded projects
... intersection of social and SW

<bblfish> who is coughing?

jeffsayre: looking into privacy issues into CMS (esp. Drupal and WP)

<mischat> bblfish: melvster and webr3 should say hello too

Alex: leading social group in DERI
... worked on SMOB, etc
... also Federated Social Web XG

<mischat> http://smob.me/

Guido: work in DERI as a developer

Owen: PhD student at DERI, with Alex
... focusing on privacy

Benjamin: I'm a PhD student as well
... in information mining and retrieval
... interested in recommendation systems
... needs private data
... WebID provides an important piece

<mischat> bblfish: melvster and webr3 should say hello

<laszlo> me

Henry: Benjamin is working on auth stuff as well

Melvin: freelancer in UK
... interested in SW, micro payments, etc.
... also foaf.me and Tabulator contributor

<mischat> http://foaf.me/

<laszlo> Laszlo Török

<mischat> Siemens

Laszlo: I'm a SE at Siemens

<scorlosq> webr3: I think it's the default, I was too

laszlo: interested in implementations

Nathan: freelancer from Scotland, Web developer
... interested how all the tech work together
... how to enable the write-Web

<scorlosq> domel and gburel are you on the phone?

Henry: DanBri and Libby made FOAF :D

<bblfish> who else is on the call?

<jeffsayre> 917 is NYC area code

<domel> yes

<scorlosq> I think domel and gburel are the missing ones

<scorlosq> (from the IRC list)

<scorlosq> domel: do you want to introduce yourself?

<domel> you do not hear me?

<scorlosq> no

<mischat> domel: no we don't

Dan XXX:

<danbri> (/me and Libby met Henry at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/events/foaf-galway/ first I think )

scribe: we are from the banking area and interested in using it there

Meetings

<mischat> but i don't really sit on it

<mischat> i kinda lurk on sparql

<claudio> +1 for 2 hrs later

<jeffsayre> Most US daytimes are fine with me.

<claudio> +1 for 2 hrs earlier sorry

<scorlosq> also +1 for earlier. we should run another doodle on the mailing list

<bblfish> ACTION: bblfish to check meeting time on mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-webid-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Check meeting time on mailing list [on Henry Story - due 2011-02-01].

Deliverables

<reto> for me 1h earlier, or 3h later

<claudio> cannot make at 6 p.m.

<pchampin> 2hrs later make it a little late for CET... :-/

<danbri> mischa, i've just 'joined' the group for vu.nl and signed Guus (the co-chair) as a member. It's just starting now really...

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Main_Page

<bblfish> http://tinyurl.com/webidxg

<mischat> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/charter

<melvster> :)

Henry: essentially we're trying to improve WebID, gather use cases and get an overview on implementations

<bblfish> ack

<webr3> zakim help: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

Henry: we can have a HG repo https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/

PROPOSAL: to ask W3C to create a HG repo

<webr3> +1

<mischat> +!

<mischat> +1

<bblfish> +1

<scorlosq> +1

<jeffsayre> +1

<domel> +1

<laszlo> +1

<bheitman> +1

RESOLUTION: XG wants a HG repo https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/

<scorlosq> webr3: no please :)

<pchampin> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/883452/git-interoperability-with-a-mercurial-repository

<scorlosq> +1

<csarven> +1

<bblfish> ACTION: move bugs form old github db to our web bug database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-webid-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - move

<bblfish> ACTION: scolorsq, move bugs form old github db to our web bug database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-webid-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - scolorsq,

<bblfish> ACTION: Corlosquet, move bugs form old github db to our web bug database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-webid-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Corlosquet,

<scorlosq> remove the ,

<scribe> ACTION: Corlosquet to move bugs form old github db to our web bug database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-webid-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Move bugs form old github db to our web bug database [on Stéphane Corlosquet - due 2011-02-01].

<scorlosq> +1 for poll

<mischat> should we have a new poll

<mischat> +1 for new poll

<reto> we had proposols to make it earlier too

<AlexPassant> also be sure to check with W3C we can get a slot on zakim

<mischat> s/here peter/hear peter/

AOB

<mischat> ok bye all

<melvster> thanks all

<jeffsayre> Bye

Henry: let's start working!

<laszlo> bya

<scorlosq> good bye

<bblfish> bye

<pchampin> bye

[meeting adjourned]

<domel> bye

<gaedke> ok bye

<guido> bye

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WebID Incubator Group Teleconference

25 Jan 2011

Attendees

Contents

Admin

Introduction

Meetings

Deliverables

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Summary of Action Items

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