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<trackbot> Date: 26 October 2010
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/full_implementation_query.xml
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/full_implementation_query.xml
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/full_implementation_query.xml
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Tpac2010_Agenda
<scribe> Scribe: Cameron
<scribe> ScribeNick: heycam
CM: should we go back to one telcon per week?
Others: sounds like a good idea to try [paraphrasing]
So Erik and I will resume alternating chairing.
ED: it was out of date until a moment ago
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/full_implementation_query.xml
AG: it obviously didn't get the right file
ED: and it still lists some of the revision numbers as unknown and that needs to be fixed
<scribe> ACTION: Anthony to fix the revision numbers in the implementation query file [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/26-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2886 - Fix the revision numbers in the implementation query file [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-11-02].
ED: one of the problems might be
the svgz file
... the other thing with the test suite was that i also
committed a new harness that only lists the accepted tests
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/harness/htmlObjectMiniApproved/
AG: we can start using the harness for the implementation report
ED: right, make it easier to go through them and fill out the xml file
CM: when should we start filling out the implementation report?
ED: we can do it for all of the
entries in that file at the moment
... the unknown revisions be fixed easily
... it'd be nice if those were up to date fairly quickly
CM: adrian do you know what patrick wanted to talk about wrt the test suite?
AB: no
... it might be to do with whether the categorisation of the
tests are sensible, given that some of the tests include a
bunch of different aspects of svg
... and maybe failing one of the tests because of one of those
things, that might not be one of the primary things the test is
testing for, going by the name
DS: it comes back down to the idea of having more modular tests, so that when it looks like -- when you do implementation reports, having it clear that implementations are more or less mature based on the modules, rather than on the number of tests passed
AB: i think so, i don't want to
speak too much for patrick, i think that was the gist of
it
... it might not necessarily be modularising the tests more,
just the way that they're organised, so taht when you have the
implementation report it's clear wheteher you have good
interop
... that might be masked
... customers want to be able to look at the implementation
report, figure out the level of maturity of the things they can
rely on
CM: we haven't had guidelines for testing strategies, so we can discuss whether we want tests to really focus on single features
ED: sounds like a good tpac topic
AB: not asking for a load of new work, possibly more as we start to think about the future, so having this as a tpac topic sounds like a good idea
DS: the test suite is testing the
spec, not the implementations, it's a subtle point. that's the
original purpose.
... that's something we can reexamine w3c wide, to see if
that's the best for the community
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