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<trackbot> Date: 14 September 2010
<scribe> scribe: chris
<scribe> scribenick: chrisl
ISSUE-2340?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2340 -- Last Call Comment: view and animation values lists - where can I find the promised note? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2340
ACTION-2817
ACTION-2817?
<trackbot> ACTION-2817 -- Chris Lilley to add the promised note relating to ISSUE-2340 -- due 2010-07-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2817
test at http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/linking-frag-01-f.svg
(chrisl corrects a typo in the test, recommits)
The test checks that an escaped semicolon works the same as an unescaped one
ED: need to debug, think we should pass this. Several values accepted
CL: Transform should show a quarter circle
my email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Sep/0086.html
ED (checks in debugger)
DS; What about wrapping in quotes?
CL: List is split by semicolons first. Not clear quotes are allowed anyway
ED: Looked at issue-2335, bias
issue-2335?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2335 -- Last Call Comment: Clarify feConvolveMatrix bias property -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2335
ED: Feedback from Vincent and
jasper, agreement on proposed option number 2
... just need to test this and come up with wording
... does change how the spec defines it, and currently Opera,
Firefox and ASV agree on bias. But its unused and not useful at
present.
<scribe> ... new wording is better
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: maybe get
Inkscape and Opera to pass on the new wording
... checked in tests that Jasper made, colours are
different
CL: Inkscape is not using linearRGB
ED: Jasper made tests with sRGB as well
AG: Is option 1 what ASV does?
CL: Yes
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2368
ED: Cyril raised an issue on number parsing
ACTION-2843?
<trackbot> ACTION-2843 -- Cyril Concolato to propose new wording for the spec for ISSUE-2368 -- due 2010-09-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2843
(wre link the action to the issue)
ED: Will try to close as many as I can. Others sjould get on and do theirs
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/test_suite_status.html
ED: Updated the status generator
tbah: what is 'uses red'?
ChrisL: some can't be changed, like the ones on color syntax
DS: Prefer to avoid red in passing tests where possible
ED: Can toggle off the accepted
ones so only the ones that need work are seen
... move ones as imageOwner and Reviewed to accepted
... only 14 tests
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-85-t.svg
description is not done yet
ED: text in operator script could be moved around easily
<ed> Run the test. No interaction required.
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.svg
also acceptged
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/filters-displace-02-f.svg
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/painting-control-05-f.svg
AG: Opera and Chrome both fail some subtests on that one
also shapes-01-f.svg
ED: Might require an erratum for
1.2T
... and update to 1.2T test suite as well
AG: Does 1.1 say what to do with broken pont lists?
ED: Was clear, then changed in 1.2T not sure why
AG: How different is it?
... Will raise the issue now
ED: and need to fix the 1.2T tests
struct-use-10-f.svg
ED: test description lissing, will shunt it around
AG: shapes-01-f.svg is missing the subsection name
ED: Yes but applies to two subsections
CL: Just link it to the two
sections
... or rename to one and say in the dezxcription it tests both
sections
struct-use-12-f.svg spelled 'reviewed' incorrectly :)
ED: Script checks for fully red in the reference image
text-align-07-t.svg
CL: Should be an issue because of
dominant baseline
... I propose that very old tests which have been out for
years, a decade even, be marked with SVGWG as reviewer and
accepted
ED: OK
<scribe> ACTION: chris to bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no status that have been published already [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2870 - Bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no status that have been published already [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-09-21].
AG: Dominant baselines is inconsistent i browsers because it is not clear from the spec how to get it. No viewer gets it right
CL: Question is, is the test implementable or is there an issue/ Where do you get the dominant baseline of a random Unicode character?
AG: Abbra is almost right
... ASV not entirely right
tbah: Sanscrit is supposed to be on hanging baseline?
AG: Yes
... Adobe shid=ft in right direction but not by the right
amount. Overshoot for small text sizes
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#AlignmentProperties
AG: You pull this out of the font
CL: SVG fonts don't have that info.
tbah: Don't think you can get this from Pango.
ED: Does this require getting baseline info? Not available on all platforms
CL: Better to have defined fallback, for SVG 2
<scribe> ACTION: Anthony to investigate how to get dominant baseline [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2871 - Investigate how to get dominant baseline [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-09-21].
<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0122.html
ED: What is the freeze date for CR report?
CL: without a freeze we won't have any implementation reports
Resolved: test freeze at end of September 2010 for 1.1SE CR report
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to check tests that need to be reviewed before the freeze [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2872 - Check tests that need to be reviewed before the freeze [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-09-21].
ED: Are we trying to get it published so HTML5 is OK for HTML5 last call
AG: I have new generated tables,
committed them (checks)
... yes they are checked in. elements table complete
... attr table needs more work
ED: Can we get HTML5 to reference this spec?
DS: Yes, people are interested in
integration issues especially implementors
... Jeff Schiller pointed out some issues with
iframe/image/object recently
... will get this ready in next week or two
ED: need to move on this before its too late
CL: HTML WG discussed their schedule at HTCG
DS: Several open actions on
Integration
... Updated params spec and script implementation, will commit
soon
ED: Next FX tf next week? Is that too soon?
adjourned
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