<Fran> Hi

(i prefer to skip the introduction, sitting in shared office at the moment)

I think 412.608 needs to be muted

Scott, your voice is still chopped up.

<epichler> lost audio

scott, try again

much better now

oh wait, there is the choppiness again

<Stephen> still very choppy

<epichler> am getting very intermittent audio

<rboyce> lost all sound

<scribe> scribenick: matthias_samwald

<mscottm> I will work on my audio while Francois goes ahead

<mscottm> could you hear me ask Francois to go ahead?

<rboyce> no, calling in again now

francois: i am here to introduce the instance matching track at OAEI
... "ontology alignment evaluation initiative"
... has been going on for some years. running as workshop at ISWC.
... we have been proposing a track about matching instance data coming from "real" datasets, linked data.
... this year we want to focus on two points: 1) scale, 2) different datasets, those without explicit ontology

<mscottm> Sorry about the sound problems - I was in a car accident last night and apparently my computer didn't survive completely intact.. :( I myself received an airbag smack to the face and chest.

francois: we want to focus on automated interlinking.

(sounds bad, scott!)

scribe: we want to use manually curated links as a reference point to judge the quality of automated interlinking tools.

<Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/

<Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/2009/

scott: have you chosen a language to represent mappings?

francois: OAEI uses the ontology alignment API
... does not use SKOS mapping, rather this format allows to represent the output of matchers, this can then be turned into SKOS or owl:sameAs mappings
... we need more expressive constructs than owl:sameAs or owl:equivalentClass

<Fran> http://alignapi.gforge.inria.fr/

oktie: we have been working for a while (together with IBM) on instance matching / linking.
... something that is missing is metadata/provenance about terms
... if you look at all HCLS datasets in LOD cloud,
... datasets are highly interlinked, e.g. because they are based on shared identifiers
... i am not sure how interesting they are for your initiative
... oktie: i am not sure what the expected input and output is

francois: we are looking for datasets that already have links
... last year we used LinkedMDB

<mscottm> Francois: We would like a recommendation of two datasets that are interesting to use as part of the alignment challenge

<Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/2009/instances/

scott: there are challenges. it is already hard if you have unification of entities, without unifications it gets even harder, but that is the challenge

francois: there are semiautomatic tools like linker or SILK, with further growth of the web of data we need tools with more automation

<mscottm> Scott: So you would like a recommendation of some data sets to use in the challenge?

<mscottm> Francois: Yes.

<mscottm> Oktie: I would guess that a good starting place is the table at http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Data

oh, i dropped out, although i am still dialed in.

it seems it happened to others as well?

<Fran> yep

<Stephen> i just lost all audio too

<bbalsa> Info about interlinking in LODD, http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Interlinking

<mscottm> please dial in again if you lost your connection

<mscottm> Scott: Summarizing Francois's request for data sets that have lots of instance data

<mscottm> Scott: Data Updates - nothing new

oktie: nothing new regarding data updates.

matthias: nothing from my side as well.

<mscottm> http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Mapping_Experimental_Data

scott: if you want to share datasets, people need information ABOUT the data, not just the data itself
... how can you support relational systems?

<mscottm> http://sharednames.org

scott: people would also like to know, for example, who generated annotations, and how.
... there is ongoing work in two other HCLS task forces to talk about provenance in the context of scientific discourse.

<mscottm> SWAN/SIOC

scott: part of the provenance group is also working on microarray data, e.g., to find out about experimental conditions and analytical methods
... in the context of linked open data, you would like to know how, for example, a dataset was mapped to RDF, a reference to the set of mappings that were used etc.

<mscottm> Leveraging the Semantic Web and Natural Language Processing to Enhance Drug-mechanism Knowledge in Drug Product Labels

<mscottm> Richard: Leveraging the Semantic Web and Natural Language Processing to Enhance Drug-mechanism Knowledge in Drug Product Labels

<rboyce> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&orig_db=pubmed&term=boyce%20kalet%20computing&cmd=search&src=

i'm back

<scribe> scribenick: matthias_samwald

<rboyce> http://www.pitt.edu/~rdb20/data/DIKB-lightning-summary-05262010-1.pdf

i get a 404 as well

richard: the drug interaction KB has info from drug labels, in-vitro experiments, FDA guidance statements
... what drugs inhibit metabolism, et cetera
... we have around 100 drugs in the systems, extensive review for around 60 of them
... more detail than Drugbank
... we want to discuss possibility this resource as a node in the LODD cloud
... we are preparing an abstract for a paper in which we want to create a mash-up using semantic resources

scott: do you already have an idea which ontological terms would be relevant

richard: active moieties / ingredients, biological discourse / evidence models

bosse: is your work not also relevant to TMO?

<mscottm> TMO http://bioportal.bioontology.org/visualize/42758

<rboyce> DIKB: http://www.pitt.edu/~rdb20/data/DIKB-lightning-summary-05262010.pdf

richard: we had problems with accessing LODD server (at berlin server), we are mirroring now
... i will also contact anja jentzsch

<Stephen> Have to disconnect now. Thanks all.

<mscottm> thanks!

<Fran> bye

i can't view http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html

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