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15:02:55 <mscottm> Zakim, who is here?
15:02:55 <Zakim> apparently SW_HCLS(COI)11:00AM has ended, mscottm
15:02:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, OktieH, matthias_samwald, rboyce, mscottm, Zakim, trackbot, ericP
15:03:16 <mscottm> Zakim, this is lodd
15:03:16 <Zakim> ok, mscottm; that matches SW_HCLS(LODD)11:00AM
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15:04:44 <Zakim> + +1.781.431.aadd
15:04:46 <Fran> Hi
15:05:10 <Zakim> +??P25
15:05:34 <matthias_samwald> zakim, ??P25 is matthias_samwald
15:05:34 <Zakim> +matthias_samwald; got it
15:05:36 <mscottm> Zakim, +1.781.431.aadd is elgar
15:05:36 <Zakim> +elgar; got it
15:05:42 <mscottm> Zakim, who is here?
15:05:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.412.623.aaaa, +46.4.63.3.aabb, +47.66.1.aacc, mscottm, ??P5, elgar, matthias_samwald
15:05:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see Fran, bbalsa, RRSAgent, OktieH, matthias_samwald, rboyce, mscottm, Zakim, trackbot, ericP
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15:06:15 <mscottm> Zakim, +1.412.623.aaaa is rboyce
15:06:15 <Zakim> +rboyce; got it
15:08:32 <bbalsa> zakim, +46.4.63.3.aabb is bosse
15:08:32 <Zakim> +bosse; got it
15:08:51 <matthias_samwald> (i prefer to skip the introduction, sitting in shared office at the moment)
15:09:39 <Zakim> + +1.647.839.aaee
15:11:23 <mscottm> Zakim, +1.647.839.aaee is OktieH
15:11:25 <Zakim> +OktieH; got it
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15:14:01 <mscottm> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:14:12 <Zakim> mscottm, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P5 (9%), mscottm (41%)
15:14:24 <mscottm> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:14:36 <Zakim> mscottm, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P5 (80%)
15:14:50 <Zakim> + +1.412.608.aaff
15:15:31 <matthias_samwald> I think 412.608 needs to be muted
15:16:35 <mscottm> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:16:35 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose elgar
15:16:39 <matthias_samwald> Scott, your voice is still chopped up.
15:17:21 <matthias_samwald> zakim, mute +1.412.608.aaff
15:17:21 <Zakim> +1.412.608.aaff should now be muted
15:17:21 <epichler> lost audio
15:17:29 <matthias_samwald> scott, try again
15:17:34 <matthias_samwald> much better now
15:17:45 <matthias_samwald> oh wait, there is the choppiness again
15:17:51 <Stephen> still very choppy
15:17:59 <epichler> am getting very intermittent audio
15:18:01 <matthias_samwald> zakim, unmute +1.412.608.aaff 
15:18:01 <Zakim> +1.412.608.aaff should no longer be muted
15:18:27 <rboyce> lost all  sound
15:18:40 <matthias_samwald> scribenick: matthias_samwald
15:18:47 <mscottm> I will work on my audio while Francois goes ahead
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15:19:10 <mscottm> could you hear me ask Francois to go ahead?
15:19:36 <rboyce> no, calling in again now
15:20:00 <matthias_samwald> francois: i am here to introduce the instance matching track at OAEI
15:20:16 <matthias_samwald> ... "ontology alignment evaluation initiative"
15:20:23 <Zakim> + +1.412.608.aagg
15:20:34 <matthias_samwald> ... has been going on for some years. running as workshop at ISWC.
15:21:02 <matthias_samwald> ... we have been proposing a track about matching instance data coming from "real" datasets, linked data.
15:22:14 <matthias_samwald> ... this year we want to focus on two points: 1) scale, 2) different datasets, those without explicit ontology
15:22:30 <mscottm> Sorry about the sound problems - I was in a car accident last night and apparently my computer didn't survive completely intact.. :( I myself received an airbag smack to the face and chest.
15:22:48 <matthias_samwald> ... we want to focus on automated interlinking.
15:23:10 <matthias_samwald> (sounds bad, scott!)
15:23:38 <matthias_samwald> ... we want to use manually curated links as a reference point to judge the quality of automated interlinking tools.
15:24:09 <Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/
15:24:15 <Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/2009/
15:24:31 <matthias_samwald> scott: have you chosen a language to represent mappings?
15:24:47 <matthias_samwald> francois: OAEI uses the ontology alignment API
15:25:37 <matthias_samwald> ... does not use SKOS mapping, rather this format allows to represent the output of matchers, this can then be turned into SKOS or owl:sameAs mappings
15:27:07 <matthias_samwald> ... we need more expressive constructs than owl:sameAs or owl:equivalentClass
15:27:33 <Fran> http://alignapi.gforge.inria.fr/
15:29:08 <matthias_samwald> oktie: we have been working for a while (together with IBM) on instance matching / linking.
15:30:41 <matthias_samwald> ... something that is missing is metadata/provenance about terms
15:30:51 <matthias_samwald> ... if you look at all HCLS datasets in LOD cloud,
15:31:16 <matthias_samwald> ... datasets are highly interlinked, e.g. because they are based on shared identifiers
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15:31:35 <matthias_samwald> ... i am not sure how interesting they are for your initiative
15:35:31 <matthias_samwald> ... oktie: i am not sure what the expected input and output is
15:35:43 <matthias_samwald> francois: we are looking for datasets that already have links
15:35:56 <matthias_samwald> ... last year we used LinkedMDB
15:36:18 <mscottm> Francois: We would like a recommendation of two datasets that are interesting to use as part of the alignment challenge
15:36:23 <Fran> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/2009/instances/
15:37:28 <matthias_samwald> scott: there are challenges. it is already hard if you have unification of entities, without unifications it gets even harder, but that is the challenge
15:40:37 <matthias_samwald> francois: there are semiautomatic tools like linker or SILK, with further growth of the web of data we need tools with more automation
15:42:29 <mscottm> Scott: So you would like a recommendation of some data sets to use in the challenge?
15:42:34 <mscottm> Francois: Yes.
15:42:37 <mscottm> Oktie: I would guess that a good starting place is the table at http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Data
15:43:08 <Zakim> -??P5
15:43:09 <Zakim> - +47.66.1.aacc
15:43:11 <Zakim> -matthias_samwald
15:43:30 <Zakim> -elgar
15:44:02 <matthias_samwald> oh, i dropped out, although i am still dialed in.
15:44:11 <matthias_samwald> it seems it happened to others as well?
15:44:16 <Fran> yep
15:44:19 <Stephen> i just lost all audio too
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15:44:37 <bbalsa> Info about interlinking in LODD, http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Interlinking
15:45:15 <mscottm> please dial in again if you lost your connection
15:45:24 <mscottm> Scott: Summarizing Francois's request for data sets that have lots of instance data
15:45:44 <Zakim> +??P4
15:45:50 <matthias_samwald> zakim, ??P4 is matthias_samwald
15:45:50 <Zakim> +matthias_samwald; got it
15:46:00 <Zakim> +??P5
15:46:15 <mscottm> Scott: Data Updates - nothing new
15:46:20 <matthias_samwald> oktie: nothing new regarding data updates.
15:46:29 <matthias_samwald> matthias: nothing from my side as well.
15:46:39 <mscottm> http://esw.w3.org/HCLSIG/LODD/Mapping_Experimental_Data
15:46:40 <Zakim> + +47.66.1.aahh
15:48:31 <matthias_samwald> scott: if you want to share datasets, people need information ABOUT the data, not just the data itself
15:49:00 <matthias_samwald> ... how can you support relational systems?
15:49:14 <mscottm> http://sharednames.org
15:49:55 <matthias_samwald> ... people would also like to know, for example, who generated annotations, and how.
15:51:52 <matthias_samwald> ... there is ongoing work in two other HCLS task forces to talk about provenance in the context of scientific discourse.
15:51:54 <mscottm> SWAN/SIOC
15:52:38 <matthias_samwald> ... part of the provenance group is also working on microarray data, e.g., to find out about experimental conditions and analytical methods
15:54:07 <matthias_samwald> ... in the context of linked open data, you would like to know how, for example, a dataset was mapped to RDF, a reference to the set of mappings that were used etc.
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15:57:34 <mscottm> Leveraging the Semantic Web and Natural Language Processing to Enhance Drug-mechanism Knowledge in Drug Product Labels
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15:57:48 <mscottm> Richard: Leveraging the Semantic Web and Natural Language Processing to Enhance Drug-mechanism Knowledge in Drug Product Labels
15:57:52 <rboyce> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&orig_db=pubmed&term=boyce%20kalet%20computing&cmd=search&src=
15:57:59 <matthias_samwald> i'm back
15:58:15 <matthias_samwald> scribenick: matthias_samwald
15:59:40 <rboyce> http://www.pitt.edu/~rdb20/data/DIKB-lightning-summary-05262010-1.pdf
16:00:09 <matthias_samwald> i get a 404 as well
16:01:02 <matthias_samwald> richard: the drug interaction KB has info from drug labels, in-vitro experiments, FDA guidance statements
16:01:23 <matthias_samwald> ... what drugs inhibit metabolism, et cetera
16:01:52 <matthias_samwald> ... we have around 100 drugs in the systems, extensive review for around 60 of them
16:02:17 <matthias_samwald> ... more detail than Drugbank
16:02:44 <matthias_samwald> ... we want to discuss possibility this resource as a node in the LODD cloud
16:03:53 <matthias_samwald> ... we are preparing an abstract for a paper in which we want to create a mash-up using semantic resources
16:04:50 <matthias_samwald> scott: do you already have an idea which ontological terms would be relevant
16:05:33 <matthias_samwald> richard: active moieties / ingredients, biological discourse / evidence models
16:05:56 <matthias_samwald> bosse: is your work not also relevant to TMO?
16:06:41 <mscottm> TMO http://bioportal.bioontology.org/visualize/42758
16:07:28 <rboyce> DIKB: http://www.pitt.edu/~rdb20/data/DIKB-lightning-summary-05262010.pdf
16:08:23 <matthias_samwald> richard: we had problems with accessing LODD server (at berlin server), we are mirroring now
16:08:35 <matthias_samwald> ... i will also contact anja jentzsch
16:08:39 <Stephen> Have to disconnect now. Thanks all.
16:08:44 <mscottm> thanks!
16:09:18 <Zakim> -OktieH
16:09:21 <Zakim> - +1.412.608.aagg
16:09:22 <matthias_samwald> RRSagent, please draft minutes
16:09:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html matthias_samwald
16:09:22 <Zakim> -??P5
16:09:24 <Zakim> -bosse
16:09:25 <Zakim> -mscottm
16:09:30 <Fran> bye
16:09:32 <matthias_samwald> RRSagent, please make logs world-visible
16:10:02 <matthias_samwald> i can't view http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html
16:10:07 <matthias_samwald> sigh
16:10:25 <Zakim> - +47.66.1.aahh
16:10:29 <matthias_samwald> RRSagent, please draft minutes
16:10:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html matthias_samwald
16:10:52 <matthias_samwald> now it works.
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16:11:37 <Zakim> Attendees were +47.66.1.aacc, mscottm, matthias_samwald, elgar, rboyce, bosse, OktieH, +1.412.608.aaff, +1.412.608.aagg, +47.66.1.aahh
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