See also: IRC log
<trackbot> Date: 26 April 2010
<scribe> scribe: Jonathan Watt
<scribe> scribenick: jwatt
<ChrisL> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0038.html
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_1.1F2
ED: the difference between "reviewed" and "accepted" is that I thought we should agree on the reviewed ones here
<ChrisL> I got to styling-css-09-f.svg and then hit a problem
ED: agree to accept them
<scribe> ACTION: ED to mark reviewed tests as accepted [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2770 - Mark reviewed tests as accepted [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03].
CL: I've not been checking tests in Batik
ED: please help with reviewing
the remaining tests
... just grab some
<ChrisL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0040.html
CL: the pass criteria is that you
don't see red
... but in Firefox you get a flash of red
... while the content is waiting for restyling
... so if it's okay with everyone I'll add the word "go" to the
page to make it clear when it's ready
(general agreement)
<ChrisL> styling-css-08-f.svg
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-css-08-f.svg
<ChrisL> struct-svg-01-f.svg
<ChrisL> styling-pres-02-f.svg
<ChrisL> uses getPresentationAttribute. Can't see a way around it though
CL: I think he has a point
regarding styling-pres-02-f.svg , but there's no other obvious
way to do that test
... but I agree we should for now drop it, or mark it not
approved
<ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-02-f.svg
ED: I can have a look at an alternative way to test it if you like
CL: that would be good, I think it's a useful test
<scribe> ACTION: Eric to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Eric
<scribe> ACTION: ED to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2771 - Rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03].
ED: it should be possible to get the string values in some way
<ChrisL> styling-pres-01-t.svg
CL: I'm not sure this is a very
good test
... I'd suggest removing it
ED: fine with me
<scribe> ACTION: CL to remove styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2772 - Remove styling-pres-01-t.svg [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-05-03].
<ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t.svg
CL: the issue is that 1.1
required the UA to halt, but we weren't really considering
script setting invalid value and things at that time
... and we've relaxed things since then
... and I don't think it guides implementers in the right
direction any more
<ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t.svg
PD: yeah, okay, let's remove it
<ed> "An !important declaration within a presentation attribute definition is an error."
<ed> from section 6.4
<ed> in svg 1.1
<ChrisL> file:///D:/WWW/dev/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/styling.html#UsingPresentationAttributes
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/styling.html#UsingPresentationAttributes
ED: is this something that we
could change in 2nd Ed?
... what it does is make the attribute invalid
CL: so that means we would keep the test but change the pass criteria?
ED: yes
<scribe> ACTION: CL to edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2773 - Edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-05-03].
ED: I sent out an email
... please address your outstanding issues, or by the end of
the week any outstanding actions will be moved to the next
edition
... anything to do with spec changes that is
... actions relating to publishing won't be changed of
course
... heycam replied to say the javadoc stuff can be done after
publishing
<ChrisL> close ACTION-2773
<trackbot> ACTION-2773 Edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg closed
ED: do we all agree to remove
those margin attributes?
... there's push from mozilla, webkit and others
... Opera hasn't implemented it either
... so I don't mind
... trying to come up with something different that works, is
implementable and doesn't break old content could be
tricky
<scribe> ACTION: ED to remove the filter margin attributes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2774 - Remove the filter margin attributes [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03].
<scribe> ACTION: ED to investigate alternative ways of handling subregions for filters [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2775 - Investigate alternative ways of handling subregions for filters [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03].
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html
ED: we got a suggestion to add a
couple of links
... I think it would make it clearer
CL: I agree
<scribe> ACTION: ED to add links relating to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2776 - Add links relating to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03].
ED: please send in your preferred times
<ChrisL> close ACTION-2772
<trackbot> ACTION-2772 Remove styling-pres-01-t.svg closed
<ChrisL> adjourned to work on actions
trackbot, end telcon
This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.135 of Date: 2009/03/02 03:52:20 Check for newer version at http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Found Scribe: Jonathan Watt Found ScribeNick: jwatt Default Present: ed, anthony, ChrisL, JWatt, [Microsoft] Present: ed anthony ChrisL JWatt [Microsoft] Regrets: shepazu Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0038.html WARNING: No meeting chair found! You should specify the meeting chair like this: <dbooth> Chair: dbooth Found Date: 26 Apr 2010 Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html People with action items: cl ed eric[End of scribe.perl diagnostic output]
