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Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference

13 Apr 2010

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Attendees

Present
Holger, kelsey, +1.716.688.aabb, kerry, michael_, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, Payam, [MIT528], +1.937.775.aacc, +1.937.775.aadd
Regrets
Oscar, Krzysztof
Chair
Holger
Scribe
laurent_lefort_cs

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 13 April 2010

<kierry> newnick kerry

<dongmei> hi, Kerry, it's me, Dongmei

<kierry> hi dongmei -- welcome!

<kierry> Are you on the phone this week -- it works much better!

<dongmei> i am not quite familar with irc

<dongmei> yes,

<dongmei> could you tell me the phone number?

<kierry> dongmei, Phone number: +1.617.761.6200 (Boston) or +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice) or +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol) Conference code: 7769 ("SSNX")

<kierry> newnick kerry

<dongmei> yes, dialed

<dongmei> there is no voice?

<kierry> dongmei -- i think your line is creating a lot of noise for everyone

<dongmei> yes, i'm fine

<michael_> can't hear...

<Payam> heavy noise

<michael_> just me??

<vhuang> I cannot hear.

<kierry> Holger, I can't hear you

<Payam> can't hear either

<vhuang> Too much noise.

<kelsey> +1

<Arthur> heavy noise here too

<kierry> i think that is dongmei, currently at MIT, I thnik

<dongmei> i'm at mit now

I'm muted

<dongmei> hi, laurent

Dongmei is a visiting scholar at MIT (Boston)

Part of a group working on Standards in China

Yep

<Holger> ScribeNick: laurent_lefort_cs

Decision about Member Submission

Kerry reminding everyone the content of our charter

The decision to make today is whether we make a Member submission or not.

Question to everyone: are there member organisations wishing to lead / develop that member submission?

The answer from the group is negative.

Next motion: proposal to retract this deliverable from the objectives of the XG.

No comments on the proposal.

<kierry> +1

<Payam> +1

<michael_> +1

<Holger> +1

<cory> +1

Vote to retract the member submission (+1 = agree to retract)

+1

<vhuang> +1

<dongmei> i go with 0, i need to learn much

<Arthur> +1

<Arthur> +q

Conclusion of the vote: decision by the XG to retract the submission

<kierry> ACTION to kerry adjust wikki and report to W3C

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<kelsey> http://www.w3.org/2008/04/scribe.html

<scribe> ACTION: kierry to adjust wiki and report to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - kierry

<scribe> ACTION: kerry to adjust wiki and report to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Adjust wiki and report to W3C [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-04-20].

Arthur: what is the result of the group if we don't do the submission?

Holger: the topics will be covered in the semantic markup report but not formalised as a submission

Accuracy of measurement etc.

<michael_> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Modelling_of_Accuracy%2C_etc

michael: since last meeting received comments from Luis

Luis: I have work on an example with Carlos Rueda

<lbermude> http://mmisw.org/browser/individuals/1100099319/

<lbermude> http://mmisw.org/browser/manage/?action=load&clear=true&uri=http://mmisw.org/ont%3Fform=owl%26uri=http://mmisw.org/ont/mmi/devontssn

Go to the Vaisala individual http://mmisw.org/browser/individuals/1100099319/

+q

<michael_> +q

Laurent: the OWL is quite verbose but that's normal

Luis: explaining how to navigate from the sensor to the description of each quality/capability

<kierry> I still can't find the example!

Michael: does the example handle the cases where the accurACY DEPENDS ON THE CONDITIONS (E.G. THE WIND SPEED)?

<Arthur> http://mmisw.org/browser/classes/-120147420/?session=127f75f5ba9-9-127f7631433

Michael: am I missing something?

Luis: no, this is correct. The example does not handle this.

<michael_> kerry, follow Luis last posted link, then All Individuals, then WM 30

<lbermude> Subclass of MeasurementCapability -> MeasurementCapabilityWithCondition

Luis: Capability with condition is a special type of capability

<lbermude> yes

<vhuang> +q

vincent: question on the use of operational restrictions for measurement capability

<michael_> +q

vincent: can you have different conditions leading to different capability values?

Luis: yes, need more examples
... asking if the example of the wiki page is available in RDF

<scribe> ACTION: Luis to extend the MMI example with measurement capabilities with conditions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Extend the MMI example with measurement capabilities with conditions [on Luis Bermudez - due 2010-04-20].

<scribe> ACTION: Michael to upload the RDF corresponding the the wiki page example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Upload the RDF corresponding the the wiki page example [on Michael Compton - due 2010-04-20].

AOB

+q

<kierry> laurent: i cleaned them up a few minuutes ago!

Laurent: asking who want to help to tidy the wiki pages (call for Cory for help on the Semantic Markup pages)
... asking everyone to close the actions which are finished

<kierry> +q

Kerry: I have closed as much as I could except one for Luis I was not sure.

<lbermude> yes closed

<michael_> +q

Michael: Luis send me a powerpoint to start from. I'm planning to do this very shortly.

Laurent: I think the date is first week of May.

<scribe> ACTION: Michael to report on EGU presentation to be delivered by Simon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Report on EGU presentation to be delivered by Simon [on Michael Compton - due 2010-04-20].

<kierry> +q

Kerry: It's the time to submit a workshop proposal at ISWC (Shangai) for the Semantic Sensor Network workshop

<michael_> ...yes

Kerry: calling for expression of interest for this workshop

<Payam> yes

Q.: what is the submission deadline for the workshop, for the papers?

A. around september

<kierry> bye!

<dongmei> thank,bye-

<kierry> -kierry

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: kerry to adjust wiki and report to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: kierry to adjust wiki and report to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Luis to extend the MMI example with measurement capabilities with conditions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Michael to report on EGU presentation to be delivered by Simon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Michael to upload the RDF corresponding the the wiki page example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/13-ssn-minutes.html#action04]
 
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