RDFa Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 05 August 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0006.html
Present
Knud Möller, Manu Sporny, Shane McCarron, Mark Birbeck, Toby Inkster
Regrets
Ivan Herman
Chair
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Knud Möller
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Close ISSUE-31 and have Mark re-submit an alternative mechanism to make mappings easier to use. link
  2. Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "RDFaAPI" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version. link
  3. Add a parameter to convertType() that indicates the type that is being converted. link
Topics
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13:50:18 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:50:18 <trackbot> Date: 05 August 2010
13:50:25 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0006.html
13:50:29 <manu> Chair: Manu
13:50:55 <manu> Present: Knud, Manu, Shane, MarkB, Toby
13:53:02 <manu> Regrets: Ivan
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14:01:53 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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14:05:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Knud, manu, toby, markbirbeck, ShaneM

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14:06:28 <Knud> Manu: Any additions or changes to the agenda?

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14:07:11 <Knud> no other additions to the agenda

no other additions to the agenda

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14:07:24 <Knud> TOPIC: ISSUE-31: setMapping API location

1. ISSUE-31: setMapping API location

14:07:47 <Knud> Manu: setMapping call should either be duplicated or be moved from context to document interface

Manu Sporny: setMapping call should either be duplicated or be moved from context to document interface

14:08:00 <manu> document.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1");

Manu Sporny: document.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1");

14:08:07 <manu> document.data.context.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1");

Manu Sporny: document.data.context.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1");

14:08:51 <Knud> manu: document.setMapping could be an alias to context.setMapping

Manu Sporny: document.setMapping could be an alias to context.setMapping

14:09:28 <markbirbeck> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0054.html

Mark Birbeck: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0054.html

14:10:09 <Knud> mark: still open as to how to implement this

Mark Birbeck: still open as to how to implement this

14:10:24 <markbirbeck> document.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/");

Mark Birbeck: document.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/");

14:10:24 <markbirbeck>   var people = document.getItemsByType("foaf:Person");

Mark Birbeck: var people = document.getItemsByType("foaf:Person");

14:10:24 <Knud> ... as long as programmers can get to setMapping via document

... as long as programmers can get to setMapping via document

14:11:43 <Knud> manu: would like to keep the idea of context

Manu Sporny: would like to keep the idea of context

14:12:07 <Knud> ... also, some people might be concerned that we pollute the document interface too much

... also, some people might be concerned that we pollute the document interface too much

14:12:20 <markbirbeck> q+

Mark Birbeck: q+

14:12:35 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:12:47 <toby> Is {document.setMapping("foaf","http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/");var people=document.getElementsByType("foaf:Person");} any easier than {var FOAF="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/";var people=document.getElementsByType(FOAF+"Person");} ??

Toby Inkster: Is {document.setMapping("foaf","http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/");var people=document.getElementsByType("foaf:Person");} any easier than {var FOAF="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/";var people=document.getElementsByType(FOAF+"Person");} ??

14:12:51 <Zakim> -manu.a

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14:13:16 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:13:49 <markbirbeck> q+

Mark Birbeck: q+

14:14:03 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:14:58 <Knud> mark: now remembers that we steered clear of putting too much into document interface

Mark Birbeck: now remembers that we steered clear of putting too much into document interface

14:15:19 <manu> var context = document.data.context;

Manu Sporny: var context = document.data.context;

14:15:34 <manu> context.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1")?

Manu Sporny: context.setMapping("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1")?

14:15:37 <Knud> ... so maybe we should rethink how we give people access to something like setMapping

... so maybe we should rethink how we give people access to something like setMapping

14:15:40 <manu> so, people would just do that.

Manu Sporny: so, people would just do that.

14:16:44 <Knud> ... there could also be a context parameter to getElementsByType

... there could also be a context parameter to getElementsByType

14:17:28 <Knud> ... would therefore like to withdraw the suggestion to move setMapping to document

... would therefore like to withdraw the suggestion to move setMapping to document

14:18:03 <ShaneM> no objection from me

Shane McCarron: no objection from me

14:18:08 <Knud> fine

fine

14:18:22 <manu> PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-31 and have Mark re-submit an alternative mechanism to make mappings easier to use.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-31 and have Mark re-submit an alternative mechanism to make mappings easier to use.

14:18:33 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:18:34 <Knud> Knud: +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:18:35 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:18:37 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:18:43 <toby> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:18:47 <manu> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-31 and have Mark re-submit an alternative mechanism to make mappings easier to use.

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-31 and have Mark re-submit an alternative mechanism to make mappings easier to use.

14:19:02 <Knud> TOPIC: ISSUE-30: hasFeature clarifications

2. ISSUE-30: hasFeature clarifications

14:19:19 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0053.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0053.html

14:19:40 <Knud> Mark: hasFeature already exists in the DOM in other specs

Mark Birbeck: hasFeature already exists in the DOM in other specs

14:20:00 <manu> q+ to discuss RDFa version number

Manu Sporny: q+ to discuss RDFa version number

14:20:00 <Knud> ... our use of it should be aligned, e.g., with respect to the version number

... our use of it should be aligned, e.g., with respect to the version number

14:20:03 <manu> ack manu

Manu Sporny: ack manu

14:20:03 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to discuss RDFa version number

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14:20:37 <Knud> manu: mostly agrees with proposal, except: we now want to make RDFa versionless

Manu Sporny: mostly agrees with proposal, except: we now want to make RDFa versionless

14:20:56 <Knud> ... so, just check if RDFa support is available, not a specific version

... so, just check if RDFa support is available, not a specific version

14:21:31 <Knud> mark: maybe we should change feature string to "rdfa_api"

Mark Birbeck: maybe we should change feature string to "rdfa_api"

14:22:13 <manu> document.hasFeature("rdfa-api 1.1")

Manu Sporny: document.hasFeature("rdfa-api 1.1")

14:22:37 <markbirbeck> document.hasFeature("rdfaapi", "1.1")

Mark Birbeck: document.hasFeature("rdfaapi", "1.1")

14:23:03 <manu> document.hasFeature("rdfa-api 1.0")

Manu Sporny: document.hasFeature("rdfa-api 1.0")

14:23:20 <manu> oh woops, Mark is correct

Manu Sporny: oh woops, Mark is correct

14:23:47 <Knud> mark: api version is in sync with RDFa core?

Mark Birbeck: api version is in sync with RDFa core?

14:23:54 <manu> document.hasFeature("rdfa-api, "1.1")

Manu Sporny: document.hasFeature("rdfa-api, "1.1")

14:24:56 <manu> So, something like this: document.implementation.hasFeature("rdfa-api, "1.1")

Manu Sporny: So, something like this: document.implementation.hasFeature("rdfa-api, "1.1")

14:25:31 <Knud> mark: we should not say "we provide hasFeature", but instead "when you call hasFeature, this should happen:"

Mark Birbeck: we should not say "we provide hasFeature", but instead "when you call hasFeature, this should happen:"

14:25:43 <Knud> ... this is in line with how other specs do it

... this is in line with how other specs do it

14:26:30 <toby> <script implements="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-api/">...</script>

Toby Inkster: <script implements="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-api/">...</script>

14:26:36 <markbirbeck> This is boilerplate text:

Mark Birbeck: This is boilerplate text:

14:26:38 <markbirbeck> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.html#ID-BBACDC08

Mark Birbeck: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.html#ID-BBACDC08

14:27:42 <ShaneM> toby: yeah, that.  I really wanted that feature.

Toby Inkster: yeah, that. I really wanted that feature. [ Scribe Assist by Shane McCarron ]

14:29:17 <manu> PROPOSAL: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "rdfa-api" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

PROPOSED: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "rdfa-api" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

14:29:25 <toby> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:29:28 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:29:35 <Knud> Knud: +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:29:40 <markbirbeck> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/introduction.html#ID-Conformance

Mark Birbeck: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/introduction.html#ID-Conformance

14:31:10 <markbirbeck> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/feature.html

Mark Birbeck: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/feature.html

14:31:12 <manu> RDFaApi

Manu Sporny: RDFaApi

14:33:32 <toby> "rdfa-api" could be considered a relative URL reference with base http://www.w3.org/TR/.

Toby Inkster: "rdfa-api" could be considered a relative URL reference with base http://www.w3.org/TR/.

14:34:09 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:34:24 <Knud> general discussion on what to use as the feature string: URI, camel case, hyphen, ...

general discussion on what to use as the feature string: URI, camel case, hyphen, ...

14:34:45 <ShaneM> consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds

Shane McCarron: consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds

14:35:49 <manu> PROPOSAL: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "RDFaAPI" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

PROPOSED: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "RDFaAPI" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

14:36:13 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

14:36:13 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:36:14 <Knud> Knud: +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:36:17 <toby> +1 (though I'd still prefer 'rdfa-api')

Toby Inkster: +1 (though I'd still prefer 'rdfa-api')

14:37:05 <manu> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/introduction.html#ID-Conformance

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/introduction.html#ID-Conformance

14:37:36 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:37:44 <manu> RESOLVED: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "RDFaAPI" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

RESOLVED: Bring hasFeature() in line with the DOMImplementation interface, use "RDFaAPI" as the feature string, and "1.1" as the version.

14:38:09 <Knud> TOPIC: ISSUE-32: TypedLiteralConverter improvements

3. ISSUE-32: TypedLiteralConverter improvements

14:38:15 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0055.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0055.html

14:38:18 <markbirbeck> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#feature-detection

Mark Birbeck: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#feature-detection

14:38:45 <markbirbeck> RDFa.API

Mark Birbeck: RDFa.API

14:40:32 <manu> q+ to point out that we allow functions already.

Manu Sporny: q+ to point out that we allow functions already.

14:41:12 <Knud> Mark: we should make very clear how callback functions/methods should be implemented

Mark Birbeck: we should make very clear how callback functions/methods should be implemented

14:41:39 <manu> We already allow callback functions for TypedLiteralConverters: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/#idl-def-TypedLiteralConverter

Manu Sporny: We already allow callback functions for TypedLiteralConverters: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/#idl-def-TypedLiteralConverter

14:42:44 <manu> ack manu

Manu Sporny: ack manu

14:42:44 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to point out that we allow functions already.

Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to point out that we allow functions already.

14:42:58 <Knud> ... also, people might only want to define one callback function for different datatypes, so the callback function should have a parameter to say what it should convert

... also, people might only want to define one callback function for different datatypes, so the callback function should have a parameter to say what it should convert

14:43:25 <Knud> ... finally, we should define how the callback reacts when conversion is not possible (exception, return null, etc.)

... finally, we should define how the callback reacts when conversion is not possible (exception, return null, etc.)

14:43:36 <toby> first class functions

Toby Inkster: first class functions

14:45:25 <Knud> ... for the third point, the parameter should say what the function is converting _to_

... for the third point, the parameter should say what the function is converting _to_

14:45:32 <manu> q+ to discuss point 3

Manu Sporny: q+ to discuss point 3

14:45:34 <manu> ack manu

Manu Sporny: ack manu

14:45:34 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to discuss point 3

Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to discuss point 3

14:47:10 <markbirbeck> var converter = function (value) { return new String(value) };

Mark Birbeck: var converter = function (value) { return new String(value) };

14:47:10 <markbirbeck> document.data.context.registerTypeConverter("xsd:string", converter);

Mark Birbeck: document.data.context.registerTypeConverter("xsd:string", converter);

14:47:51 <markbirbeck> document.data.context.registerTypeConverter("xsd:string",

Mark Birbeck: document.data.context.registerTypeConverter("xsd:string",

14:47:55 <markbirbeck>   function (value) { return new String(value) }

Mark Birbeck: function (value) { return new String(value) }

14:47:55 <Knud> mark: if there is one function per conversion type, then we wouldn't need the extra parameter.

Mark Birbeck: if there is one function per conversion type, then we wouldn't need the extra parameter.

14:47:59 <markbirbeck> );

Mark Birbeck: );

14:48:23 <Knud> ... when we want to allow one function for all conversion types, then we need an extra parameter

... when we want to allow one function for all conversion types, then we need an extra parameter

14:48:46 <toby> http://esw.pastebin.com/m9CXB8qh

Toby Inkster: http://esw.pastebin.com/m9CXB8qh

14:50:37 <manu> PROPOSAL: Add a parameter to convertType() that indicates the type that is being converted.

PROPOSED: Add a parameter to convertType() that indicates the type that is being converted.

14:50:44 <Knud> Knud: shouldn't it be 'converted to'?

Knud Möller: shouldn't it be 'converted to'?

14:51:00 <toby> +0

Toby Inkster: +0

14:51:03 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:51:14 <Knud> Knud: +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:51:27 <ShaneM> abstain - I don't grok the issue

Shane McCarron: abstain - I don't grok the issue

14:51:36 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:52:19 <manu> RESOLVED: Add a parameter to convertType() that indicates the type that is being converted.

RESOLVED: Add a parameter to convertType() that indicates the type that is being converted.

14:52:44 <Knud> we are resolving this issue with a string of different proposals

we are resolving this issue with a string of different proposals

14:53:33 <markbirbeck> "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer

Mark Birbeck: "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer

14:53:41 <Knud> SubTopic: Conversion guidance when authoring TypedLiteralConverters

3.1. Conversion guidance when authoring TypedLiteralConverters

14:54:49 <Knud> Mark: We need to provide better guidance on what do to when authoring TypedLiteralConverters. For example, "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer fails the range check for xsd:integer, but applying a Javascript integer converter would return the number 23 even though this is an RDF range violation. We should suggest that authors be aware of this sort of issue when writing range checks.

Mark Birbeck: We need to provide better guidance on what do to when authoring TypedLiteralConverters. For example, "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer fails the range check for xsd:integer, but applying a Javascript integer converter would return the number 23 even though this is an RDF range violation. We should suggest that authors be aware of this sort of issue when writing range checks.

14:54:00 <toby> q+

Toby Inkster: q+

14:54:49 <manu> ack toby

Manu Sporny: ack toby

14:54:52 <manu> Toby: We also want to let authors know that RDF processors may not even allow "23 elephants" to be expressed or they may modify it to "23" before sending it up to the RDFa API. RDF processors are allowed to do this kind of modification of Typed Literals based on range checking. Authors shouldn't depend on ever getting "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer.

Toby Inkster: We also want to let authors know that RDF processors may not even allow "23 elephants" to be expressed or they may modify it to "23" before sending it up to the RDFa API. RDF processors are allowed to do this kind of modification of Typed Literals based on range checking. Authors shouldn't depend on ever getting "23 elephants"^^xsd:integer. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:56:56 <manu> Mark: It's beside the point, though, because we could have something like "23 blah"^^my:foo that only allows three values "red", "green" and "purple". The RDF processor is going to send that up, but the developer is still going to have to recognize that "23 blah" is not in the correct range. We need to let developers know that they should be aware of ranges.

Mark Birbeck: It's beside the point, though, because we could have something like "23 blah"^^my:foo that only allows three values "red", "green" and "purple". The RDF processor is going to send that up, but the developer is still going to have to recognize that "23 blah" is not in the correct range. We need to let developers know that they should be aware of ranges. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:58:26 <manu> q+ to end the call.

Manu Sporny: q+ to end the call.

15:00:41 <manu> ack manu

Manu Sporny: ack manu

15:00:41 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to end the call.

Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to end the call.

15:00:55 <Zakim> -toby

Zakim IRC Bot: -toby

15:00:57 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: -markbirbeck

15:00:59 <Zakim> -Knud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Knud

15:01:04 <Zakim> -manu.a

Zakim IRC Bot: -manu.a

15:01:06 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

15:01:11 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu

15:01:17 <manu> zakim, drop manu

Manu Sporny: zakim, drop manu

15:01:17 <Zakim> manu is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: manu is being disconnected

15:01:18 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

15:01:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Knud, manu, +44.785.583.aaaa, toby, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +8014aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Knud, manu, +44.785.583.aaaa, toby, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +8014aabb



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This revision (#1) generated 2010-08-05 15:32:09 UTC by 'msporny', comments: 'Minor fix-ups and elaborations to the minutes.'