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<trackbot> Date: 27 January 2010
<smaug> oops
<smaug> just a second..
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org//2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-flow-activation
<scribe> scribe: Travis
<scribe> scribeNick: Travis
shepazu: clarified the section on
activation behavior.
... wrote a new section on "trusted events"
... also added some prose about syncronous vs. asynchronous
events
... is the Trusted event section accurate?
You're missing dispatchEvent -- it'll always create un-trusted events
shepazu: Need to examine whether
the convertKeyValue API is needed.
... I will be meeting with internationalization folks to follow
up on the scenarios.
... Also, want to figure out what the appropriate terminology
is for the "character" returned by the 'key' API.
Travis: We have an issue about how to get the context from a select event.
shepazu: Don't think this is a blocking issue.
<scribe> ACTION: shepazu Ask SVG and HTML WGs what their recommended approach is for getting the selected text (related to select event) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-481 - Ask SVG and HTML WGs what their recommended approach is for getting the selected text (related to select event) [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-02-03].
<scribe> ACTION: Travis to draft flow diagram for interaction between focus(), blur() APIs and focus/blur events (including focusin/focusout) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-482 - Draft flow diagram for interaction between focus(), blur() APIs and focus/blur events (including focusin/focusout) [on Travis Leithead - due 2010-02-03].
Resolution: Remove MouseWheel interface, and replace with a description of legacy events (DOMPixelScroll, mousewheel, etc.) in the wheel event's section
Travis: I concur
smaug: Yes, I agree too.
smaug: I have a couple of issues
with this.
... first the createEvent can now take event type names.
shepazu: Reason to change this was the proliferation of init*Events on every interface.
Reason I see to change this is for the use case of wanting a simple way to initialize only _some_ of the properties on a given event and leave the other properties as their defaults.
<smaug> http://www.w3.org/TR/cssom-view/#extensions-to-the-mouseevent-interface
When authors init events, there are just some properties that can't be initialized (because they're not in the init's param list)
I'd like you to add wording about what the default values are (generally) for an un-inited event.
Also, please revert back to the old init* APIs--I just don't think its time to take on that problem yet.
(In the future, I could see some kind of initParam("eventProperty", "eventPropertyValue")
)
I'd like to better understand the patterns that web developers are using here.
shepazu: Assuming we get to CR,
we're going to need a test suite and two interoperable
implementations
... I'd love to see a script library available that allows
these features to be used right away.
... I'll be looking for help with building tests
... In the next two weeks lets try to clean-up all remaining
spec issues.
<shepazu> SENSE
<shepazu> Signalling Events and Notifications by Selector Expressions
<shepazu> Simple Eventless Notifications by Selector Expressions
<scribe> ACTION: shepazu to Email the list regarding reverting event initializers (to be tackled next version) and call for use cases. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/27-webapps-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-483 - Email the list regarding reverting event initializers (to be tackled next version) and call for use cases. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-02-03].
shepazu: I think I could have
most of the issues resovlved by next week. I will proceed with
that goal.
... Let me know if there's anything outstanding.
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
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