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<trackbot> Date: 12 January 2010
<eric> Mark - are you joining us on the phone?
yes, apologies - having phone trouble - 2 mins
<eric> Scribe - eric for now.
No Objections to previous minutes
Eric: Has made progress on 108
Mark: No progress on 123, or 125
Phil: Has done 127 and 128
Eric: Need to talk to
Oracle
... URI spec expired on Jan 1st - is still available and we do
not propose to renew it until we have agreed the new IP
language
Phil: Issue 21 was raised in error
All: No objections to closing issue 21
RESOLUTION: Issue 21 will be closed
None
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/19
RESOLUTION: All accept the applied resolution of issue 19
Thise closes action 127
close-127
close action-127
<trackbot> ACTION-127 Apply the resolution for Issue 19 closed
close action-128
<trackbot> ACTION-128 Apply the resolution for Issue 20 closed
<padams2> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0010.html
Issue 20
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/20
RESOLUTION: All approve the application of the resolution for issue 20
No comments
Relates to Eric's mail on action 108
<eric> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jan/0002.html
Phil: Took action item 130
related to this
... Intended to prototype a test case that includes parameters
in a WSDL document
Eric: The most important
assertions that we have are those that assert priority
(precedence) of properties, and those that assert the existence
of properties / message formation
... We could add data to the test cases we already have which
would be (apparently) redundant in the non-WSDL test cases, but
that would test precedence when applied to WSDL tests
e.g. See testcase 6 http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html#test0006
we could add information in the WSDL 1.1 port and verify that the values from the port are used instead of the binding
OR we could add new test cases to test the precedence rules - this would be ~16 new test cases
/~16/6/
scribe: and this number would double to account for WSDL 2.0
another 4 tests would cover tests on the binding - giving a total of 16 WSDL tests
Phil: The URI does not
necessarily mean the URI specified in the WSDL (but it will be
easier to document and understand the test case if we use the
WSDL URI)
... Seems like a reasonable approach
Mark: Tests 6 & 7 already test the bindings - so these aren't all new tests
Eric: Agreed - we need to update tests 6 & 7 to reflect the fact that they also test assertion #3002
Phil: Eric's work means we can close action 30, so I will take an action to develop the first two additional tests (for properties on the service)
Eric: ...and I will take the remaining 10
Phil: We can specify just the relevant fragments of WSDL in the test cases
<scribe> ACTION: Phil to update test cases 6 & 7 to reflect the decison on WSDL snippets [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-soap-jms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Update test cases 6 & 7 to reflect the decison on WSDL snippets [on Phil Adams - due 2010-01-19].
Phil: Use action 130 to prototype new test cases
Eric: TIBCO working on implementation - probably first half of 2010
Mark: IBM working on another
implementation outside WebSphere
... Would 2 independent implentations from IBM count towards
the W3C test criteria
Yves: Yes -if they are from different code bases, though it is less ambiguous if they are from different vendors
None
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