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13:58:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:58:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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13:58:39 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:58:39 <trackbot> Date: 25 September 2012
13:58:48 <AndyS> zakim, this is 77277
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13:58:48 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
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13:59:14 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting
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13:59:26 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-09-25
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13:59:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:59:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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13:59:37 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:59:37 <trackbot> Date: 25 September 2012
13:59:47 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
14:00:02 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:03 <Zakim> I notice SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has restarted
Zakim IRC Bot: I notice SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has restarted ←
14:00:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:00:11 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:12 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, mute me ←
14:00:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:00:13 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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14:00:40 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, mute me ←
14:00:48 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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14:01:27 <cbuilara> only me!
Carlos Buil Aranda: only me! ←
14:01:27 <AxelPolleres> Sandro, Carlos, Greg, Andy, Arthur, Axel, Steve, on the phone, anybody else?
Axel Polleres: Sandro, Carlos, Greg, Andy, Arthur, Axel, Steve, on the phone, anybody else? ←
14:01:51 <AxelPolleres> Birte also on the phone.
Axel Polleres: Birte also on the phone. ←
14:02:08 <cbuilara> I can do it
Carlos Buil Aranda: I can do it ←
14:02:15 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:02:17 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara ←
14:02:29 <AxelPolleres> scribe: carlos
(Scribe set to Carlos Buil Aranda)
14:02:43 <bglimm> Zakim, hands up
Birte Glimm: Zakim, hands up ←
14:02:43 <Zakim> I see bglimm on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see bglimm on the speaker queue ←
14:02:49 <bglimm> ack bglimm
Birte Glimm: ack bglimm ←
14:02:54 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:02:54 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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14:03:01 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: work for publication next week
Axel Polleres: work for publication next week ←
14:03:14 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin
14:03:14 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: focus on resolving main left issues
Axel Polleres: focus on resolving main left issues ←
14:03:21 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-18
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-18 ←
14:03:36 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: any comments on the minutes
Axel Polleres: any comments on the minutes ←
14:03:46 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-18
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-09-18 ←
14:04:01 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-10-02 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST
Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-10-02 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST ←
14:04:16 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: anything from the RDF WG?
Axel Polleres: anything from the RDF WG? ←
14:04:17 <AxelPolleres> topic: liaison
14:04:20 <bglimm> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Birte Glimm: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:04:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:04:33 <cbuilara> AndyS: discussion on semantics, they are coming to a conclusion...
Andy Seaborne: discussion on semantics, they are coming to a conclusion... ←
14:04:57 <AxelPolleres> topic: test corrections
14:05:10 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
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14:05:10 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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14:05:12 <AndyS> "they *were* coming to a conclusion" ... but now ?!??
Andy Seaborne: "they *were* coming to a conclusion" ... but now ?!?? ←
14:05:12 <AxelPolleres> mail from greg http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0200.html
Axel Polleres: mail from greg http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0200.html ←
14:05:19 <chimezie> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:05:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:05:20 <AxelPolleres> Re-approve :dawg-delete-using-02a, :dawg-delete-using-06a
Axel Polleres: Re-approve :dawg-delete-using-02a, :dawg-delete-using-06a ←
14:05:33 <AndyS> What about the other unapproved tests?
Andy Seaborne: What about the other unapproved tests? ←
14:06:07 <chimezie> Zakim, who is here?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:06:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:06:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see chimezie, MattPerry, bglimm, ArthurK, AxelPolleres, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, MacTed, SteveH, AndyS, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see chimezie, MattPerry, bglimm, ArthurK, AxelPolleres, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, MacTed, SteveH, AndyS, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro ←
14:06:47 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl ←
14:07:37 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: any vote for reapproving these two test cases?
Axel Polleres: any vote for reapproving these two test cases? ←
14:08:12 <cbuilara> kasei: I only changed the comments
Gregory Williams: I only changed the comments ←
14:08:23 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: are these test cases pass?
Axel Polleres: are these test cases pass? ←
14:08:46 <cbuilara> kasei: yes, by at least Andy and me (Greg)
Gregory Williams: yes, by at least Andy and me (Greg) ←
14:08:59 <cbuilara> kasei: others did not have enoughtime
Gregory Williams: others did not have enoughtime ←
14:09:07 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED : re-approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a
Axel Polleres: PROPOSED : re-approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a ←
14:09:09 <AndyS> q+ to ask how many unapproved tests there are (that need approving)
Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask how many unapproved tests there are (that need approving) ←
14:09:26 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: should we reapprove them?
Axel Polleres: should we reapprove them? ←
14:10:03 <cbuilara> kasei: there are two query, all protocol, all entailment to re-approve?
Gregory Williams: there are two query, all protocol, all entailment to re-approve? ←
14:10:26 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: for CR we need them?
Axel Polleres: for CR we need them? ←
14:10:43 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
14:10:44 <cbuilara> sandro: we need a test suite for CR, or at least some of them
Sandro Hawke: we need a test suite for CR, or at least some of them ←
14:10:52 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:10:52 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to ask how many unapproved tests there are (that need approving)
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to ask how many unapproved tests there are (that need approving) ←
14:11:11 <cbuilara> kasei: for everything but graph store (and maybe entailment) we have the tests
Gregory Williams: for everything but graph store (and maybe entailment) we have the tests ←
14:11:25 <kasei> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/
Gregory Williams: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ ←
14:12:42 <AxelPolleres> syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a
Axel Polleres: syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a ←
14:13:36 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/manifest.ttl
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/manifest.ttl ←
14:14:41 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/syntax-BINDscope7.rq
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/syntax-BINDscope7.rq ←
14:14:44 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/syntax-BINDscope8.rq
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/syntax-query/syntax-BINDscope8.rq ←
14:15:50 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: can we approve them?
Axel Polleres: can we approve them? ←
14:15:55 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:15:57 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a
PROPOSED: approve syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a ←
14:16:10 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:16:53 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:16:55 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:17:02 <cbuilara> +1
+1 ←
14:17:20 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:17:30 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:17:44 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a
RESOLVED: approve syntax-query/manifest#test_61a, syntax-query/manifest#test_62a ←
14:19:04 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl ←
14:19:22 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED : approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a
Axel Polleres: PROPOSED : approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a ←
14:19:34 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:20:20 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:21:58 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:22:15 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: anybody else?
Axel Polleres: anybody else? ←
14:22:36 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a
RESOLVED: approve dawg-delete-using-02a and dawg-delete-using-06a ←
14:22:58 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: Greg and Andy, note that in the query and update part
Axel Polleres: Greg and Andy, note that in the query and update part ←
14:23:17 <cbuilara> kasei: I can make the changes in the manifest
Gregory Williams: I can make the changes in the manifest ←
14:23:32 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to make changes in the manifest on newly approved tests, also cleaning up commented test cases replaced.
ACTION: greg to make changes in the manifest on newly approved tests, also cleaning up commented test cases replaced. ←
14:23:46 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: what about the protocol tests?
Axel Polleres: what about the protocol tests? ←
14:23:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-683 - Make changes in the manifest on newly approved tests, also cleaning up commented test cases replaced. [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-683 - Make changes in the manifest on newly approved tests, also cleaning up commented test cases replaced. [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:24:29 <cbuilara> kasei: I haven't got reports about people hosting them
Gregory Williams: I haven't got reports about people hosting them ←
14:24:43 <cbuilara> kasei: my implementation pass most of them, but not all
Gregory Williams: my implementation pass most of them, but not all ←
14:24:55 <cbuilara> kasei: I will contact Andy offline to get this done
Gregory Williams: I will contact Andy offline to get this done ←
14:25:15 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: we need two implementations before we approve them
Axel Polleres: we need two implementations before we approve them ←
14:25:30 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: entailment regimes, we focus on those tests after publication
Axel Polleres: entailment regimes, we focus on those tests after publication ←
14:25:58 <cbuilara> bglimm: we need probably test with documentation
Birte Glimm: we need probably test with documentation ←
14:26:06 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: how do we proceed there
Axel Polleres: how do we proceed there ←
14:26:29 <cbuilara> bglimm: it is a bit early but we can update the documentation about how the marking was done
Birte Glimm: it is a bit early but we can update the documentation about how the marking was done ←
14:26:55 <cbuilara> bglimm: I can send an update of the document
Birte Glimm: I can send an update of the document ←
14:27:08 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte send an update on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html regarding Entailment tests.
ACTION: Birte send an update on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html regarding Entailment tests. ←
14:27:25 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: what does it mean we need a test suite?
Axel Polleres: what does it mean we need a test suite? ←
14:27:51 <cbuilara> sandro: I do not know whether to go to CR with a test suite, it would be nice
Sandro Hawke: I do not know whether to go to CR with a test suite, it would be nice ←
14:27:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-684 - Send an update on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html regarding Entailment tests. [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-684 - Send an update on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html regarding Entailment tests. [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:28:23 <cbuilara> bglimm: do you think you will have a set of tests before next telco?
Birte Glimm: do you think you will have a set of tests before next telco? ←
14:28:31 <cbuilara> bglimm: yes, I have a complete test suite
Birte Glimm: yes, I have a complete test suite ←
14:29:00 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: any volunter to review entailment tests?
Axel Polleres: any volunter to review entailment tests? ←
14:29:17 <cbuilara> chimezie: I'm working on that
Chimezie Ogbuji: I'm working on that ←
14:29:50 <cbuilara> bglimm: tests can be run with different regimes, now I run them with direct semantics
Birte Glimm: tests can be run with different regimes, now I run them with direct semantics ←
14:30:18 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: tell what tests pase and somebody to review those
Axel Polleres: tell what tests pase and somebody to review those ←
14:30:48 <cbuilara> bglimm: I sent a list of tests cases my implementation passes
Birte Glimm: I sent a list of tests cases my implementation passes ←
14:31:29 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: somebody to review entailment tests?
Axel Polleres: somebody to review entailment tests? ←
14:31:44 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: I will try to do this
Axel Polleres: I will try to do this ←
14:31:56 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review entailment tests which have at least one pass, such that we can approve them nexty week
ACTION: Axel to review entailment tests which have at least one pass, such that we can approve them nexty week ←
14:32:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-685 - Review entailment tests which have at least one pass, such that we can approve them nexty week [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-685 - Review entailment tests which have at least one pass, such that we can approve them nexty week [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:33:05 <cbuilara> sandro: I don't know if whether the group decided the criteria to CR
Sandro Hawke: I don't know if whether the group decided the criteria to CR ←
14:33:17 <sandro> PROPOSED: For all SPARQL 1.1 specs, our CR Exit criterion (that is: sufficient evidence of implementation): each of the tests which have been officially approved by the WG is passed by two or more implementations.
PROPOSED: For all SPARQL 1.1 specs, our CR Exit criterion (that is: sufficient evidence of implementation): each of the tests which have been officially approved by the WG is passed by two or more implementations. ←
14:33:31 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
14:33:46 <cbuilara> sandro: we should formalize the requirements to go to CR
Sandro Hawke: we should formalize the requirements to go to CR ←
14:35:02 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:35:04 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:35:06 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:35:08 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:35:09 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:35:11 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:35:12 <cbuilara> kasei: I did not know wether it is important to have implementations passing the tests out of the WG (it is not)
Gregory Williams: I did not know wether it is important to have implementations passing the tests out of the WG (it is not) ←
14:35:17 <cbuilara> +1
+1 ←
14:35:18 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:35:24 <sandro> RESOLVED: For all SPARQL 1.1 specs, our CR Exit criterion (that is: sufficient evidence of implementation): each of the tests which have been officially approved by the WG is passed by two or more implementations.
RESOLVED: For all SPARQL 1.1 specs, our CR Exit criterion (that is: sufficient evidence of implementation): each of the tests which have been officially approved by the WG is passed by two or more implementations. ←
14:35:25 <ArthurK> +1
Arthur Keen: +1 ←
14:35:31 <AndyS> I hope we will have external reports.
Andy Seaborne: I hope we will have external reports. ←
14:35:40 <sandro> indeed.
Sandro Hawke: indeed. ←
14:35:41 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments
14:35:48 <AxelPolleres> RC-2
Axel Polleres: RC-2 ←
14:36:50 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Sep/0002.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Sep/0002.html ←
14:37:05 <cbuilara> kasei: I send an email summarizing, I talked to him offline, he is not happy at all about the suggestion I made, continues to add a normative language as the format for errors, I do not really see a value of doing that
Gregory Williams: I send an email summarizing, I talked to him offline, he is not happy at all about the suggestion I made, continues to add a normative language as the format for errors, I do not really see a value of doing that ←
14:37:45 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: it is not an option to follow Richard's advice
Axel Polleres: it is not an option to follow Richard's advice ←
14:37:55 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: it is too late and there is no technical agreement
Axel Polleres: it is too late and there is no technical agreement ←
14:38:27 <cbuilara> kasei: it is too late because we delayed the protocol document
Gregory Williams: it is too late because we delayed the protocol document ←
14:39:05 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: it is only an example about errors we have
Axel Polleres: it is only an example about errors we have ←
14:39:54 <cbuilara> kasei: it may be an issue about the status messages
Gregory Williams: it may be an issue about the status messages ←
14:40:05 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: this is off the table in the group
Axel Polleres: this is off the table in the group ←
14:40:26 <cbuilara> kasei: changing the examples will be good, but Richard will think that this is not enough
Gregory Williams: changing the examples will be good, but Richard will think that this is not enough ←
14:40:41 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: we could put something in the future work
Axel Polleres: we could put something in the future work ←
14:41:22 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: can you draft the response?
Axel Polleres: can you draft the response? ←
14:41:59 <cbuilara> kasei: I can try, but maybe he is upset at me
Gregory Williams: I can try, but maybe he is upset at me ←
14:42:16 <cbuilara> kasei: I will do it if nobody else can do it
Gregory Williams: I will do it if nobody else can do it ←
14:42:38 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: Greg to sync up with Lee about this issue
Axel Polleres: Greg to sync up with Lee about this issue ←
14:43:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to sync with Lee on drafting a response to RC-2
ACTION: greg to sync with Lee on drafting a response to RC-2 ←
14:44:09 <cbuilara> sandro: I think that using HTTP error messages is weird
Sandro Hawke: I think that using HTTP error messages is weird ←
14:44:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-686 - Sync with Lee on drafting a response to RC-2 [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-686 - Sync with Lee on drafting a response to RC-2 [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:44:26 <cbuilara> kasei: I'm happy in reverting the changes
Gregory Williams: I'm happy in reverting the changes ←
14:44:37 <AxelPolleres> RV-10
Axel Polleres: RV-10 ←
14:46:07 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RV-10
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RV-10 ←
14:46:32 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: only thing open was what is the behavior of blank nodes in QuadData, we should add some explanation in the spec
Axel Polleres: only thing open was what is the behavior of blank nodes in QuadData, we should add some explanation in the spec ←
14:47:23 <AxelPolleres> INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g1 { _:b :p :o } GRAPH :g2 { _:b :p :o } } ;
Axel Polleres: INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g1 { _:b :p :o } GRAPH :g2 { _:b :p :o } } ; ←
14:47:26 <AndyS> I don't see any changes to update since 9/9 - are the editorial changes outstanding?
Andy Seaborne: I don't see any changes to update since 9/9 - are the editorial changes outstanding? ←
14:47:34 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: essentially the question is what happens if you insert the data before
Axel Polleres: essentially the question is what happens if you insert the data before ←
14:47:44 <AxelPolleres> INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g1 { _:b :p :o } } ; INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g2 { _:b :p :o } }
Axel Polleres: INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g1 { _:b :p :o } } ; INSERT DATA { GRAPH :g2 { _:b :p :o } } ←
14:48:22 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: from my perspective we haven't written the formal semantics, I want to know what the implementers think
Axel Polleres: from my perspective we haven't written the formal semantics, I want to know what the implementers think ←
14:49:20 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: some of the blank nodes in the operations would be different
Axel Polleres: some of the blank nodes in the operations would be different ←
14:50:00 <cbuilara> kasei: I agree that AndyS does this, my implementation does it
Gregory Williams: I agree with Andys, my implementation does it ←
14:50:56 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: I will make this commit today (the editorial change)
Axel Polleres: I will make this commit today (the editorial change) ←
14:51:03 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: we can discuss it offline
Axel Polleres: we can discuss it offline ←
14:51:07 <kasei> s/that AndyS does this/with Andys/
14:51:23 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to make editorial edits on update explaining the intended behaviour on bnodes shared across operations
ACTION: Axel to make editorial edits on update explaining the intended behaviour on bnodes shared across operations ←
14:51:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-687 - Make editorial edits on update explaining the intended behaviour on bnodes shared across operations [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-687 - Make editorial edits on update explaining the intended behaviour on bnodes shared across operations [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:52:15 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: I would appreciate if you participate ini the mail discussion
Axel Polleres: I would appreciate if you participate ini the mail discussion ←
14:52:34 <cbuilara> AndyS: when would you like to have the changes made?
Andy Seaborne: when would you like to have the changes made? ←
14:52:42 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: I will try to make them today
Axel Polleres: I will try to make them today ←
14:54:03 <AxelPolleres> topic: final edit requirements
14:54:07 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: Sandro, is there any progress on the CR page
Axel Polleres: Sandro, is there any progress on the CR page ←
14:54:18 <cbuilara> sandro: I will try to update the page today
Sandro Hawke: I will try to update the page today ←
14:54:45 <cbuilara> sandro: this is more about gathering data (implementation reports, comments, etc.)
Sandro Hawke: this is more about gathering data (implementation reports, comments, etc.) ←
14:55:36 <cbuilara> AxelPolleres: pending issue: get draft responses out, get implementation reports ready
Axel Polleres: pending issue: get draft responses out, get implementation reports ready ←
14:55:58 <cbuilara> sandro: we should get Richard to not formally object
Sandro Hawke: we should get Richard to not formally object ←
14:56:15 <AxelPolleres> AOB?
Axel Polleres: AOB? ←
14:56:54 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
Axel Polleres: adjourned ←
14:57:12 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
14:57:22 <AxelPolleres> carlos, will you do the common scribe stuff?
Axel Polleres: carlos, will you do the common scribe stuff? ←
14:57:46 <cbuilara> yes
yes ←
14:58:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to check Birte's README edits on entailment tests
ACTION: Axel to check Birte's README edits on entailment tests ←
14:58:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-688 - Check Birte's README edits on entailment tests [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-688 - Check Birte's README edits on entailment tests [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-02]. ←
14:58:54 <cbuilara> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
14:58:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/25-sparql-minutes.html cbuilara
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/25-sparql-minutes.html cbuilara ←
14:59:09 <AxelPolleres> thanks carlos for scribing!
Axel Polleres: thanks carlos for scribing! ←
14:59:40 <cbuilara> :)
:) ←
15:02:50 <cbuilara> rssagent, draft minutes
rssagent, draft minutes ←
15:03:12 <cbuilara> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
15:03:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/25-sparql-minutes.html cbuilara
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/25-sparql-minutes.html cbuilara ←
15:03:37 <cbuilara> RRSAgent, please make these logs public
RRSAgent, please make these logs public ←
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