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15:01:15 <AndyS> We do!
Andy Seaborne: We do! ←
15:01:22 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting
Axel Polleres: trackbot, start meeting ←
15:01:24 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
15:01:26 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
15:01:27 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
15:01:27 <trackbot> Date: 05 January 2010
15:01:30 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P4 is [Garlik]
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P4 is [Garlik] ←
15:01:35 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
15:01:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now ←
15:01:42 <Zakim> I already had ??P4 as ??P4, SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P4 as ??P4, SteveH ←
15:01:46 <SteveH> Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH, LukeWM
Steve Harris: Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH, LukeWM ←
15:01:54 <Zakim> sorry, SteveH, I do not recognize a party named '[Garlik]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, SteveH, I do not recognize a party named '[Garlik]' ←
15:01:54 <MattPerry> zakim, ??P4 is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, ??P4 is me ←
15:01:58 <Zakim> I already had ??P4 as ??P4, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P4 as ??P4, MattPerry ←
15:02:04 <Ivan Herman> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
15:02:05 <MattPerry> sorry
Matthew Perry: sorry ←
15:02:05 <SteveH> MattPerry, ??P4 is us
Steve Harris: MattPerry, ??P4 is us ←
15:02:06 <Zakim> ok, Ivan Herman; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Ivan Herman; the call is being made ←
15:02:15 <MattPerry> zakim, ??P18 is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
15:02:17 <SteveH> ...I think
Steve Harris: ...I think ←
15:02:20 <Zakim> I already had ??P18 as ??P18, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P18 as ??P18, MattPerry ←
15:02:42 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-01-05
Axel Polleres: AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-01-05 ←
15:02:48 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P4 is temporarily [Garlik]
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P4 is temporarily [Garlik] ←
15:02:52 <Zakim> I already had ??P4 as ??P4, SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P4 as ??P4, SteveH ←
15:03:00 <SteveH> Zakim, P4 is [Garlik]
Steve Harris: Zakim, P4 is [Garlik] ←
15:03:02 <Zakim> sorry, SteveH, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, SteveH, I do not recognize a party named 'P4' ←
15:03:17 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
15:03:18 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is ←
15:03:22 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, I have some echo...
Axel Polleres: hmmm, I have some echo... ←
15:03:27 <sandro> zakim, this is sparql
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is sparql ←
15:03:32 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM ←
15:03:32 <LukeWM> zakim, what's wrong with you?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, what's wrong with you? ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
15:03:36 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, LukeWM.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, LukeWM. ←
15:03:38 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
15:03:38 <AlexPassant> Zakim: ??P26 is me
15:03:42 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P26 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P26 is me ←
15:03:44 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it ←
15:03:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:03:56 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Souri (29%), Axel (59%), Ivan Herman (11%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Souri (29%), Axel (59%), Ivan Herman (11%) ←
15:04:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see dcharbon2, bglimm, kasei, AndyS, ??P18, Ivan Herman, Axel, Sandro, tkoivula, Souri, AlexPassant
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dcharbon2, bglimm, kasei, AndyS, ??P18, Ivan Herman, Axel, Sandro, tkoivula, Souri, AlexPassant ←
15:04:04 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
15:04:11 <sandro> What was wrong with Zakim was that no one had said "Zakim, this is sparql"
Sandro Hawke: What was wrong with Zakim was that no one had said "Zakim, this is sparql" ←
15:04:13 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P4 is [Garlik]
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P4 is [Garlik] ←
15:04:13 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +[Garlik]; got it ←
15:04:19 <MattPerry> zakim, ??P18 is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
15:04:19 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←
15:04:40 <LukeWM> Zakim, Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Zakim, Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH ←
15:04:40 <Zakim> +LukeWM, SteveH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LukeWM, SteveH; got it ←
15:04:45 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:04:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see dcharbon2, bglimm, kasei, AndyS, MattPerry, Ivan Herman, Axel, Sandro, tkoivula, Souri, AlexPassant, [Garlik]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dcharbon2, bglimm, kasei, AndyS, MattPerry, Ivan Herman, Axel, Sandro, tkoivula, Souri, AlexPassant, [Garlik] ←
15:04:48 <Zakim> [Garlik] has LukeWM, SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has LukeWM, SteveH ←
15:05:01 <AlexPassant> ok
Alexandre Passant: ok ←
15:05:12 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Alex Passant
(Scribe set to Alexandre Passant)
15:05:24 <AxelPolleres> scribenick:AlexPassant
15:05:32 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-01-05
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-01-05 ←
15:05:49 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: main goal is to check how far we are on the reviews
Axel Polleres: main goal is to check how far we are on the reviews ←
15:05:53 <AlexPassant> ... + discuss schedule
... + discuss schedule ←
15:05:58 <AlexPassant> topic: admin issues
15:06:03 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-22
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-22 ←
15:06:14 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: minutes approval - any objections ?
Axel Polleres: minutes approval - any objections ? ←
15:06:21 <AlexPassant> ... minutes approved
... minutes approved ←
15:06:22 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-22
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-22 ←
15:06:38 <AlexPassant> ... next meeting next week
... next meeting next week ←
15:06:49 <chimezie> Zakim, passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, passcode? ←
15:06:49 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie ←
15:06:50 <AlexPassant> ... dcharbon2 will scribe
... dcharbon2 will scribe ←
15:07:09 <AlexPassant> ... updates on comments ?
... updates on comments ? ←
15:07:09 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments any updates?
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments any updates? ←
15:07:19 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
15:07:26 <AlexPassant> ... no updated
... no updated ←
15:07:29 <AxelPolleres> topic: liaisons
15:07:32 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
15:07:32 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
15:07:35 <AxelPolleres> no updates.
Axel Polleres: no updates. ←
15:07:47 <AlexPassant> topic: Document reviews
15:08:03 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:08:03 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
15:08:13 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: schedule: publish in 2 weeks max
Axel Polleres: schedule: publish in 2 weeks max ←
15:08:18 <AlexPassant> ... few reviews missing
... few reviews missing ←
15:08:31 <AlexPassant> ... kindly ask reviewers to review in the next few days
... kindly ask reviewers to review in the next few days ←
15:08:39 <AlexPassant> ... so that we can decide on publishing next week
... so that we can decide on publishing next week ←
15:09:01 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/ ←
15:09:04 <AlexPassant> ... first: query document
... first: query document ←
15:09:18 <AlexPassant> ... several reviews from bglimm, Souri, AxelPolleres and MattPerry
... several reviews from bglimm, Souri, AxelPolleres and MattPerry ←
15:09:24 <AlexPassant> ... andy to summarize
... andy to summarize ←
15:09:36 <AlexPassant> AndyS: nothing outstanding on the query side
Andy Seaborne: nothing outstanding on the query side ←
15:09:47 <AlexPassant> ... if so, please remind
... if so, please remind ←
15:10:48 <AlexPassant> Souri: sent another e-mail with minor question
Souripriya Das: sent another e-mail with minor question ←
15:11:02 <AlexPassant> ... not a critical one
... not a critical one ←
15:11:34 <AlexPassant> ... reviewers should check if their comments have been addressed
... reviewers should check if their comments have been addressed ←
15:11:39 <bglimm> fine with me
Birte Glimm: fine with me ←
15:11:48 <AlexPassant> ... will not give separate actions to reviewers
... will not give separate actions to reviewers ←
15:12:13 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:12:14 <AlexPassant> ... everyone is free to make some comments, but please keep the schedule in mind
... everyone is free to make some comments, but please keep the schedule in mind ←
15:12:37 <AlexPassant> ... next doc: Update
... next doc: Update ←
15:12:45 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml ←
15:12:51 <AlexPassant> ... Paul sent regrets, difficult to discuss it today
... Paul sent regrets, difficult to discuss it today ←
15:12:59 <AlexPassant> ... quick look through the reviews sent so far
... quick look through the reviews sent so far ←
15:13:19 <AlexPassant> AndyS: comments not addressed so far
Andy Seaborne: comments not addressed so far ←
15:13:30 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: postpone discussion until Paul is back
Axel Polleres: postpone discussion until Paul is back ←
15:13:34 <Souri> Please replace 20100126 with 2010126 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/WD-sparql11-query-2010126/
Souripriya Das: Please replace 20100126 with 2010126 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/WD-sparql11-query-2010126/ ←
15:14:09 <Souri> sorry the other way
Souripriya Das: sorry the other way ←
15:14:17 <AlexPassant> ... next: protocol
... next: protocol ←
15:14:18 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ ←
15:14:45 <AlexPassant> dcharbon2: short update - hoping to get some feedback
David Charboneau: short update - hoping to get some feedback ←
15:15:27 <AlexPassant> ... mail not yet in the archives
... mail not yet in the archives ←
15:15:29 <AxelPolleres> i can't see your mail in the archives: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/
Axel Polleres: i can't see your mail in the archives: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/ ←
15:15:32 <AlexPassant> ... sent about 1h ago
... sent about 1h ago ←
15:16:57 <AlexPassant> dcharbon2: should we update to WSDL2.0
David Charboneau: should we update to WSDL2.0 ←
15:17:29 <sandro> 3 messages from dcharbon approved
Sandro Hawke: 3 messages from dcharbon approved ←
15:18:21 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:19:07 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: did we agree on getting only HTTP POST for the update
Axel Polleres: did we agree on getting only HTTP POST for the update ←
15:19:15 <AlexPassant> AndyS: cannot do update with a GET by HTTP design
Andy Seaborne: cannot do update with a GET by HTTP design ←
15:19:42 <AxelPolleres> probably POST is the only reasonable way to do it.
Axel Polleres: probably POST is the only reasonable way to do it. ←
15:20:02 <AxelPolleres> ... true.
Axel Polleres: ... true. ←
15:20:23 <AlexPassant> dcharbon2: graphs do exit / vs do not exist when updating data
David Charboneau: graphs do exit / vs do not exist when updating data ←
15:20:32 <SteveH> under what circumstances are those errors?
Steve Harris: under what circumstances are those errors? ←
15:20:37 <AlexPassant> ... query gramatically correct but error when running it - suggestion to add a new error
... query gramatically correct but error when running it - suggestion to add a new error ←
15:20:40 <SteveH> don't we have an open issue about this?
Steve Harris: don't we have an open issue about this? ←
15:20:56 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:21:04 <AlexPassant> ... ... should we have something more generic (e.g. semantic execution fault)
... ... should we have something more generic (e.g. semantic execution fault) ←
15:21:11 <AlexPassant> AndyS: how this maps down to HTTP
Andy Seaborne: how this maps down to HTTP ←
15:21:22 <AlexPassant> ... caring about the corresponding HTTP code
... caring about the corresponding HTTP code ←
15:22:11 <AxelPolleres> 5xx codes reflect that something went wrong.
Axel Polleres: 5xx codes reflect that something went wrong. ←
15:22:20 <SteveH> yes, 500 soundsw wrong to me
Steve Harris: yes, 500 soundsw wrong to me ←
15:22:27 <AlexPassant> dcharbon2: last question on the update doc
David Charboneau: last question on the update doc ←
15:22:42 <AlexPassant> ... protocol could be conformat by implementing only a subset of the interface
... protocol could be conformat by implementing only a subset of the interface ←
15:22:51 <AlexPassant> ... seems not to be the case with WSDL
... seems not to be the case with WSDL ←
15:23:17 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
15:24:34 <AlexPassant> ... have to implement one or both to be compliant ?
... have to implement one or both to be compliant ? ←
15:26:05 <AxelPolleres> todo for dcharbon2: WSDL and types update, and pointers from the overview doc.
Axel Polleres: todo for dcharbon2: WSDL and types update, and pointers from the overview doc. ←
15:26:32 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: dcharbon2 send mail about readiness for review by tonight
ACTION: dcharbon2 send mail about readiness for review by tonight ←
15:26:32 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - dcharbon2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - dcharbon2 ←
15:26:32 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dcharbon2, dnewman2)
Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dcharbon2, dnewman2) ←
15:26:50 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: reviewers needed for protocol
Axel Polleres: reviewers needed for protocol ←
15:27:09 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: dcharbon2 send mail about readiness for review by tonight
ACTION: dcharbon2 send mail about readiness for review by tonight ←
15:27:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-173 - Send mail about readiness for review by tonight [on David Charboneau - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-173 - Send mail about readiness for review by tonight [on David Charboneau - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:27:29 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to review protocol changes
ACTION: axel to review protocol changes ←
15:27:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-174 - Review protocol changes [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-174 - Review protocol changes [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:27:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
15:27:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose [Garlik]
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose [Garlik] ←
15:28:27 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Luke to review protocol changes
ACTION: Luke to review protocol changes ←
15:28:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-175 - Review protocol changes [on Luke Wilson-Mawer - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-175 - Review protocol changes [on Luke Wilson-Mawer - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:28:47 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/ ←
15:28:49 <AlexPassant> ... next document: Service Description
... next document: Service Description ←
15:30:03 <AlexPassant> kasei: before publication, would like to add a link to entailement profiles URIs
Gregory Williams: before publication, would like to add a link to entailement profiles URIs ←
15:30:11 <AlexPassant> ... get the RDF published for the vocab as well
... get the RDF published for the vocab as well ←
15:30:24 <AlexPassant> ... will check with Ivan / Sandro about the RDF
... will check with Ivan / Sandro about the RDF ←
15:30:26 <Ivan Herman> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:30:37 <AlexPassant> ... commited comments yesterday on future things (not for that draft)
... commited comments yesterday on future things (not for that draft) ←
15:30:53 <AlexPassant> ... just a few things to address before publishing
... just a few things to address before publishing ←
15:31:15 <AlexPassant> Ivan Herman: happy to publish the RDF
Ivan Herman: happy to publish the RDF ←
15:31:23 <AlexPassant> ... discussed RDFa version in the email
... discussed RDFa version in the email ←
15:31:37 <AlexPassant> ... can be postpone to a later stage
... can be postpone to a later stage ←
15:31:44 <AlexPassant> kasei: happy with RDF/XML at the moment
Gregory Williams: happy with RDF/XML at the moment ←
15:31:53 <AlexPassant> +1 on kasei
+1 on kasei ←
15:31:57 <AxelPolleres> +1 RDF/XML for the first version RDFa as an option for future
Axel Polleres: +1 RDF/XML for the first version RDFa as an option for future ←
15:32:51 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to ensure RDF Schema gets published in time
ACTION: greg to ensure RDF Schema gets published in time ←
15:32:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-176 - Ensure RDF Schema gets published in time [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-176 - Ensure RDF Schema gets published in time [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:33:13 <AlexPassant> kasei: addressed the issues sent by reviewers
Gregory Williams: addressed the issues sent by reviewers ←
15:34:26 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ ←
15:34:36 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: next doc - RDF Update
Axel Polleres: next doc - RDF Update ←
15:34:41 <AlexPassant> ... reviews missing
... reviews missing ←
15:34:42 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:34:42 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted ←
15:35:02 <AlexPassant> chimezie: standing review is AndyS' one
Chimezie Ogbuji: standing review is AndyS' one ←
15:35:08 <AlexPassant> ... issues look straightforward
... issues look straightforward ←
15:35:15 <AlexPassant> ... it not, email correspondance will help
... it not, email correspondance will help ←
15:35:23 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0673.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0673.html ←
15:35:40 <AlexPassant> AndyS: issue around graph naming is problematic
Andy Seaborne: issue around graph naming is problematic ←
15:36:36 <AlexPassant> chimezie: need some interface to specify different URIs to update / delete a graph
Chimezie Ogbuji: need some interface to specify different URIs to update / delete a graph ←
15:36:56 <AlexPassant> ... several suggestions (query parameters)
... several suggestions (query parameters) ←
15:37:04 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:37:06 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:37:06 <AlexPassant> ... specify the semantics of the interface should address the problem
... specify the semantics of the interface should address the problem ←
15:37:18 <AlexPassant> ... can be addressed in the next round
... can be addressed in the next round ←
15:38:24 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to ping all editor's to reply to unresponded reviews.
ACTION: Axel to ping all editor's to reply to unresponded reviews. ←
15:38:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-177 - Ping all editor's to reply to unresponded reviews. [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-177 - Ping all editor's to reply to unresponded reviews. [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:38:28 <AlexPassant> ... can address most of the original comments / suggestions
... can address most of the original comments / suggestions ←
15:38:48 <AlexPassant> ... could produce a version that incorporate the comments by the next telecon
... could produce a version that incorporate the comments by the next telecon ←
15:39:00 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: should have the other reviews by then
Axel Polleres: should have the other reviews by then ←
15:39:08 <AlexPassant> ... discuss the last reviews next time
... discuss the last reviews next time ←
15:39:18 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
15:39:18 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted ←
15:39:24 <AlexPassant> ... next doc : property path document
... next doc : property path document ←
15:39:25 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml ←
15:39:40 <AlexPassant> ... 2 open reviews
... 2 open reviews ←
15:40:28 <AlexPassant> AndyS: lots of comments (longer period of time)
Andy Seaborne: lots of comments (longer period of time) ←
15:40:33 <AlexPassant> ... now processed all of them
... now processed all of them ←
15:40:39 <Ivan Herman> I am fine
Ivan Herman: I am fine ←
15:40:40 <AlexPassant> ... if something is missing, please remind
... if something is missing, please remind ←
15:41:16 <Ivan Herman> I have checked and I am happy
Ivan Herman: I have checked and I am happy ←
15:41:20 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: reviewers should check if the comments have been addressed
Axel Polleres: reviewers should check if the comments have been addressed ←
15:41:27 <Ivan Herman> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:41:30 <AlexPassant> ... then decision on publication on next TC
... then decision on publication on next TC ←
15:43:37 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Matt to start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SWL
ACTION: Matt to start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SWL ←
15:43:37 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Matt
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - Matt ←
15:43:41 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml#Outstanding_Issues
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml#Outstanding_Issues ←
15:44:06 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:44:34 <AlexPassant> Ivan Herman: we may want to do a formal vote on the publishing to go on the request for the shortname
Ivan Herman: we may want to do a formal vote on the publishing to go on the request for the shortname ←
15:45:20 <AlexPassant> sandro: WG resolves the publishing, then do the short name decision
Sandro Hawke: WG resolves the publishing, then do the short name decision ←
15:45:24 <chimezie> i have to leave right now, unfortunately
Chimezie Ogbuji: i have to leave right now, unfortunately ←
15:45:30 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
15:45:32 <AndyS> "sparql11-property-paths" is the natural short name, I think.
Andy Seaborne: "sparql11-property-paths" is the natural short name, I think. ←
15:45:47 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll on the name? sparql11-property-paths
Axel Polleres: strawpoll on the name? sparql11-property-paths ←
15:45:51 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: strawpoll on the shortname ?
Axel Polleres: strawpoll on the shortname ? ←
15:45:54 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
15:45:59 <AlexPassant> ... anyone opposed on sparql11-property-paths ?
... anyone opposed on sparql11-property-paths ? ←
15:46:01 <Ivan Herman> ack Ivan Herman
Ivan Herman: ack Ivan Herman ←
15:46:11 <Ivan Herman> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:46:15 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:46:19 <LukeWM> Isn't it just a feature of query?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Isn't it just a feature of query? ←
15:46:47 <AlexPassant> sandro: is the sparql11 prefix in any shortname
Sandro Hawke: is the sparql11 prefix in any shortname ←
15:46:50 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: yes
Axel Polleres: yes ←
15:47:15 <Ivan Herman> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
15:47:18 <kasei> I was wondering the same thing as LukeWM.
Gregory Williams: I was wondering the same thing as LukeWM. ←
15:47:27 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths
PROPOSED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths ←
15:47:32 <SteveH> q?
Steve Harris: q? ←
15:47:51 <AndyS> Luke, if time (;-) but I think it needs a name to publish this round separately as well.
Andy Seaborne: Luke, if time (;-) but I think it needs a name to publish this round separately as well. ←
15:48:02 <AlexPassant> SteveH: will it be a standalone doc or part of the query doc in the last call ?
Steve Harris: will it be a standalone doc or part of the query doc in the last call ? ←
15:48:15 <LukeWM> Ah, I see, so it can be merged across at the very end if required.
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Ah, I see, so it can be merged across at the very end if required. ←
15:48:23 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: can we include it later in the rec ?
Axel Polleres: can we include it later in the rec ? ←
15:48:30 <AlexPassant> Ivan Herman: correct
Ivan Herman: correct ←
15:48:54 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:49:03 <SteveH> q-
Steve Harris: q- ←
15:49:20 <AlexPassant> sandro: different window for disclosure but shall not be a problem
Sandro Hawke: different window for disclosure but shall not be a problem ←
15:49:33 <SteveH> if it's going to be rolled into query11 it doesn't matter does it?
Steve Harris: if it's going to be rolled into query11 it doesn't matter does it? ←
15:49:38 <SteveH> which was why I asked
Steve Harris: which was why I asked ←
15:50:10 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: 2 options sparql11-paths / sparql11-property-paths
Axel Polleres: 2 options sparql11-paths / sparql11-property-paths ←
15:50:29 <AndyS> For incorporation, only prob I see is one of balance - the pp doc is relatively long for the size of feature compared to rest of feature set.
Andy Seaborne: For incorporation, only prob I see is one of balance - the pp doc is relatively long for the size of feature compared to rest of feature set. ←
15:50:34 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
Zakim IRC Bot: -AlexPassant ←
15:50:50 <SteveH> AndyS, I don't see that being a big issue, myself
Steve Harris: AndyS, I don't see that being a big issue, myself ←
15:50:59 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll on "property-" ?
Axel Polleres: strawpoll on "property-" ? ←
15:51:05 <Ivan Herman> +1 for property
Ivan Herman: +1 for property ←
15:51:06 <AxelPolleres> 0
Axel Polleres: 0 ←
15:51:07 <LukeWM> 0
15:51:07 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
15:51:11 <kasei> 0
15:51:14 <tommik> 0
Tommi Koivula: 0 ←
15:51:14 <bglimm> +1 for property
Birte Glimm: +1 for property ←
15:51:17 <AndyS> +1 to property
Andy Seaborne: +1 to property ←
15:51:23 <AxelPolleres> sandro: -1 to property
Sandro Hawke: -1 to property [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:51:29 <AlexPassant> +1
+1 ←
15:51:36 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
15:51:43 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P26 is me
Zakim, ??P26 is me ←
15:51:43 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it ←
15:51:44 <LeeF> +1 to property-path
Lee Feigenbaum: +1 to property-path ←
15:51:49 <Ivan Herman> +1 for plural
Ivan Herman: +1 for plural ←
15:51:49 <AndyS> SteveH, agree - merely the bigg*est* issue I could think of.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH, agree - merely the bigg*est* issue I could think of. ←
15:51:51 <AndyS> +1 to plural
Andy Seaborne: +1 to plural ←
15:51:51 <SteveH> +1 to plural
Steve Harris: +1 to plural ←
15:51:56 <AlexPassant> +1 for plural
+1 for plural ←
15:52:00 <bglimm> +1 for paths (plural)
Birte Glimm: +1 for paths (plural) ←
15:52:03 <kasei> +1 for plural
Gregory Williams: +1 for plural ←
15:52:04 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: plural yes/no? (paths)
STRAWPOLL: plural yes/no? (paths) ←
15:52:05 <SteveH> AndyS, ah, I see
Steve Harris: AndyS, ah, I see ←
15:52:07 <LukeWM> +1 for plural
Luke Wilson-Mawer: +1 for plural ←
15:52:11 <Souri> 0
Souripriya Das: 0 ←
15:52:12 <LeeF> 0
Lee Feigenbaum: 0 ←
15:52:12 <AxelPolleres> sandro: 0
Sandro Hawke: 0 [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:52:12 <MattPerry> +0
Matthew Perry: +0 ←
15:52:13 <tommik> 0
Tommi Koivula: 0 ←
15:52:14 <AxelPolleres> 0
Axel Polleres: 0 ←
15:52:16 <dcharbon2> 0
15:52:44 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: property-paths seems to be the consensus
Axel Polleres: property-paths seems to be the consensus ←
15:52:51 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths
PROPOSED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths ←
15:52:57 <Ivan Herman> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:53:08 <AndyS> Seconded
Andy Seaborne: Seconded ←
15:53:13 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:53:38 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths
RESOLVED: short name for property paths FPWD will be sparql11-property-paths ←
15:53:59 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:53:59 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:54:01 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: nothing more to add on property path ?
Axel Polleres: nothing more to add on property path ? ←
15:54:09 <AlexPassant> ... one document open: entailment
... one document open: entailment ←
15:54:09 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml ←
15:54:19 <AlexPassant> bglimm: currently working through ivan's comment
Birte Glimm: currently working through ivan's comment ←
15:54:28 <AlexPassant> ... should be finished today so that ivan can have another look
... should be finished today so that ivan can have another look ←
15:55:31 <AxelPolleres> will try to look through OWL until tomorrow then.
Axel Polleres: will try to look through OWL until tomorrow then. ←
15:55:43 <AlexPassant> ... updated OWL direct semantics with changes that ivan suggested
... updated OWL direct semantics with changes that ivan suggested ←
15:55:57 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:56:35 <AlexPassant> AndyS: trying to respond to every comment, what are the general expectations for comments
Andy Seaborne: trying to respond to every comment, what are the general expectations for comments ←
15:56:50 <AlexPassant> ... for the internal reviews
... for the internal reviews ←
15:57:02 <AlexPassant> ... so that nothing gets lost
... so that nothing gets lost ←
15:57:33 <Ivan Herman> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:57:37 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
15:58:08 <AlexPassant> Ivan Herman: public comments coming in on the ML
Ivan Herman: public comments coming in on the ML ←
15:58:11 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
15:58:25 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: should check the comments list if that's up to date + new comments coming
Axel Polleres: should check the comments list if that's up to date + new comments coming ←
15:58:36 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to check comments archives and add new comments if necessary
ACTION: Axel to check comments archives and add new comments if necessary ←
15:58:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-178 - Check comments archives and add new comments if necessary [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-178 - Check comments archives and add new comments if necessary [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-01-12]. ←
15:58:53 <AlexPassant> AxelPolleres: anybody can edit the page and pick-up open comments
Axel Polleres: anybody can edit the page and pick-up open comments ←
15:58:57 <AndyS> Are there any glaring late responses currently?
Andy Seaborne: Are there any glaring late responses currently? ←
15:59:08 <AlexPassant> ... should go through the comments next week if time permits
... should go through the comments next week if time permits ←
16:00:06 <AlexPassant> ... meeting ajourned
... meeting ajourned ←
16:00:10 <bglimm> bye
Birte Glimm: bye ←
16:00:13 <Zakim> -Souri
Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri ←
16:00:14 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:00:15 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
16:00:16 <Zakim> -dcharbon2
Zakim IRC Bot: -dcharbon2 ←
16:00:16 <Zakim> -Ivan Herman
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan Herman ←
16:00:18 <Zakim> -tkoivula
Zakim IRC Bot: -tkoivula ←
16:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Alex, will you do the minutes magic?
Axel Polleres: Alex, will you do the minutes magic? ←
16:00:20 <Zakim> -[Garlik]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[Garlik] ←
16:00:22 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
16:00:22 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
16:00:32 <AlexPassant> yep, will try to recall how to do it
yep, will try to recall how to do it ←
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