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<trackbot> Date: 07 October 2009
<Tina> Good afternoon, both
<Steven> Scribe: Steven
Steven: Anyone going to
TPAC?
... Just for interest, there a new validator at W3C, Unicorn
-> http://qa-dev.w3.org/unicorn
... validates according to appendix C too.
... I have sent comments
good to see you here Gregory
<oedipus> scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita
<oedipus> scribenick: oedipus
TPAC - anyone going?
<scribe> New W3C validator in Beta: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-qa-dev/2009Oct/0000
SP: asked for last call review of
Web Content Transformation Proxy Guidelines
... interesting document, but don't know background - anyone
knows anything please share with group
SP: PERs on hold until M12 Second
Edition ready
... shane, any comments on M12n SE?
shane: speaks for itself
SP: comments all disposed?
... have to go through LC again? substantive change
shane: if you say so
SP: holding up push to PR
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml-modularization-2e-doc-20090930.html
shane: what doc in particular are
we talking about?
... we agreed to put attributes back in -- is substative
change; WG agreed that whole thing should be modules; few
attributes not anywhere that should be in Legacy Module
SP: could we just say "we are
fixing errors, not changing M12n itself"
... this is errata that we are fixing, so if state fixing
errata, then ok and no recycle through LC necessary
shane: happy to do -- terms come from PubRules -- didn't make them up
SP: link to definition of substantive?
shane: can say are strictly editorial because addressing errata
http://www.w3.org/Guide/pubrules-about
http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-pubrules-about#glossary
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#rec-modify
<Steven> "A substantive change (whether deletion, inclusion, or other modification) is one where someone could reasonably expect that making the change would invalidate an individual's review or implementation experience. Other changes (e.g., clarifications, bug fixes, editorial repairs, and minor error corrections) are minor changes."
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#substantive-change
SP: under this definition, classify as editorial
GJR: agree that is error correction/bugfixes
SP: will take to transition call -- will highlight that changes are editorial
shane: due to bug in issue
tracking software, can't change - will have to figure out
later
... will make sure "comment" document in place
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-modularization-20090930/
shane: anyone had chance to read my recent posts on M12n?
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-modularization-20090930/xhtml-modularization-diff.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Oct/0002.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0027.html
SP: looks good to me
GJR: me too
Shane: not in alphabetic
order
... sure that it is right
... XML Schema ok
SP: no objection to URI ref being
a single hash
... change to definition of CURIE in schema
Shane: not sure that was on purpose; need to recheck
SP: looking at DIFF for schema def
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-modularization-20090930/xhtml-modularization-diff.html
Shane: will attend to it
... [after reading] i meant "for the actual anchor"
SP: addition?
Shane: no a change
... when was our last Rec published
SP: 8 October 2008
Shane: put CURIEs in as
placeholder
... there is no change so not sure why DIFF is pointing one
out
... may be a whitespace problem
... compared with Rec there are no changes
... will massage markup so doesn't show up as DIFF
SP: have to simply resolve to take to PER
<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to update the M12N Disposition of comments document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Update the M12N Disposition of comments document [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-10-14].
proposed RESOLUTION: take xhtml-modularization to PER upon shane's tweaking of markup
SP: all in favor? once get first can get others to PER, pointing to M12n
Shane: highlight changes, such as "name" on FORM
Tina: no objections
GJR: no objections
RESOLUTION: take xhtml-modularization to PER upon shane's tweaking of markup
<scribe> ACTION: Steven - take modularization to PER [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/07-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - - take modularization to PER [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-10-14].
shane: need to leave momentarily
SP: this was the most important
thing to decide at meeting
... without objection, ADJOURNED
<Steven> Thanks Gregory
no problem - have to go into "screen review" mode to hear what is in the buffer, hence the lag time
<Steven> :-)
<Steven> you beat me to it
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