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Date: 1 Oct 2009
<scribe> Meeting: 154
<scribe> Scribe: Norm
<scribe> ScribeNick: Norm
Mohamed gives possible regrets.
Norm summarizes the status; getting there but not quite ready.
Norm: I propose a publication date of 12 Oct with a commitment from the editor to get a new draft available by close-of-business on 8 Oct.
No objections heard.
Proposal: Publish the current editor's working draft, with additional changes as seen fit by the editor, as a new interim CR draft on 12 Oct.
Norm: We resolved 163, or rather directed the editor to resolve it, last time.
Norm summarizes his change to the declared output bindings.
Proposal: The editor got it right.
Proposal: This part of 2.2 has been successfully clarified as well.
Norm: I think that closes 163.
Norm: I think the status quo is
that it isn't an error to do this.
... but it does seem a little pointless.
Mohamed: I think we should say something about this.
Norm: I think there are two choices: make it an error or just add a note about it.
Norm/Mohamed discuss the fact that an implementation-defined mechanism could run them even if they don't have a type.
Paul: I don't think we should make it an error.
Norm: It looks to me fairly harmless.
Proposal: Add a note to the spec to inform readers, but not make it an error.
Norm expresses his feeling that p:try is still in the spirit of this rule.
Henry: It is worth putting an
explicit note in the spec about this. If all it said was the
result of a multi container step will always be the result of
exactly one of it's pipelines, that would be true. But that's
not quite true for p:try.
... I think we should add "with the possible exception of side-effects in the main branch of a try/catch in which the try fails."
... Pipelines are going to have side effects.
Some discussion of whether or not the xpath expressions in p:when clauses can cause side effects.
Henry: I think it's worth recasting this.
<scribe> ACTION: Editor to attempt to clarify this prose, noting that side effects may arise in p:group w/i p:try and from XPath expressions evaluated by p:when or from the bindings within p:xpath-context. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01]
Henry: I'd say "with the possible except of side effects, such as..." so we don't seem to be enumerating them all.
Henry reports no progress.
Henry: I will try to get something done before the face-to-face.
Norm expresses the goal of getting to PR this month.
Mohamed: Last time I looked at the test suite, coverage wasn't that good. Has it improved?
Norm: I didn't think it was that bad after we added serialization tests.
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