<trackbot> Date: 23 September 2009

<scribe> Scribe: Steven

PERs

Shane: I updated the three specs in the drafts area
... and produced a DoC for 1.1
... the other two had no issues

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/

<ShaneM> XHTML 1.1 draft DoC is at http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/htmlwg/xhtml11-per-doc-20090916.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml11-20090916/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-basic-20090916/

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-print-20090916/

Steven: Did we set all version of XML? Did we set them all to 4?

Shane: Yes, because M12N uses that, and v5 changes normative requirements wrt name tokens

Steven: Let's just check the Rejects in the DoC
... they look OK
... I think then that that means we are ready to go
... but I'd like the group to have time to look at the docs, till the end of the week?

Shane: Sure

Steven: And then I'll contact Ralph and plh to let them look at the docs before I formally ask for transition

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Steven: Are there any more issues wrt the PERs?

DOM3 Events

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Jul/0008.html

RRSAgent`Steven: As we talked about last week, they are taking out namespaced events

scribe: we'd be planning on that anyway
... and nobody depends on them
... Mark has pointed out that you could still have namespaced events in the syntax, and map them to the API if wanted
... but the other part is that they are deprecating (most of) the DOM* events, like DOMActivate
... and I don't really understand why.

http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html

Shane: Do they have replacements?

Steven: I think so
... Sorry, it's not DOMActivate, that has been retained
... but DOMFocusIn for instance

Shane: From XML Events2, we don't care

Steven: I think it only indirectly affects us, via XForms
... and we can leave the discussions to them

AOB

Shane: We should press forward with the update to M12N 1.1

Steven: Are they all issues in the DB?

Shane: I'll create an issues doc
... and post it

Tina: I would like to discuss before December what we will do with @version
... and how to determine if it is XHTML2
... I do an automated testing tool

<ShaneM> didn't we agree to use @version ?

Tina: and we test based on the language

Shane: Then it is in the DOM

Tina: That's all I need

Steven: Do we have a problem with using a new namespace?

Tina: They don't use the namespace for identification

Steven: They might one day
... browsers do do some sniffing
... we should do some experiemtns

Tina: We still need to be able to identify a document as XHTML2

Steven: Yes, especially if you are going to server-side process it

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0021
Found Date: 23 Sep 2009
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