zakim ??P4 is me

<asheth2> Zakim sees me (Amit Sheth) as Prateek

<asheth2> do we have URL for minutes?

<Holger> ScribeNick: Payam

Holger, we will wait til we have something represantable for the ontology

<Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/images/2/2e/SemanticSensorNetworkOntology.pdf

on page 4, you have a figure, is that the core ontology?

Michael explaining the core ontology from the paper (page 4)

Amit, we can add other ontologies to the core; e.g OWL-time, geo-location

Amit, main dometions are spatial, temporal, and theme

<JohnGraybeal> I'm confused -- If we get sufficiently atomic, we don't have to model anything -- everything that describes a sensor can be found in some other ontology. ?

Amit, discussing need for an upper ontology and mapping to other concepts

<krp> No that's right!

<asheth2> Key issue is how to use an uppoer ontology and specific ontologies that bring in sensor, time, locaction and thematic dimensions-- the framework for this

John, there are multiple ontolgies which are contradictory; depending which ontology we choose, relations between cpncepts will be different

<michael> +q

Michael, the are Unit of measurments, location, etc. ontologies ... which are core aspects which need to there

+q

<michael> =q

<michael> +q

Action Michael to add a page to wiki regarding the ontology

<scribe> ACTION: Michael to add a page to wiki regarding the ontology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/26-SSN-minutes.html#action01]

<krp> Sounds right for the EU

<Holger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2009Aug/0064.html

Holger: Timeslot(s) for telephone conferences

discussion on the timeslot to continue on the mailing list

before discussing extenstion packages on the ontologies; we need to discuss the current status of the ontology

John, whether this core satisfies the use case, and everybody should comment on this - it is on the wiki

Holger: one solution is having a dedicated phone call to discuss this, another solution discussing it in f2f meeting

<JohnGraybeal> the link is http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Favorite_Use_Cases_List

<JohnGraybeal> instructions are at the top...

<michael> +1

<JohnGraybeal> +1

<krp> +1

[Action] all to discuss the usecase in two weeks

[Action] all to discuss the core concepts of the ontology

[Action]: all to discuss the usecase in two weeks

<michael> I'm putting up a wiki page aswell

[Action]: all to discuss the core concepts of the ontology

<michael> bye

<asheth2> uit

<krp> Bye

<asheth2> Quit

<asheth2> +quit

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