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ACTION-52: pending review from Wilhelm's manager
<trackbot> ACTION-52 Draft a blog post on SPARTAN notes added
<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
Kai: I'm writing up a guide on
how to run the framework on linux
... not sure how people are supposed to contribute to that framework without running it
... it's quite hard to get it running, and thus quite hard to contributes tests to it
Wilhelm: we have set up a server where internally people can just push their tests
Kai: but how would we open that up to a larger audience?
Wilhelm: it could work to open up write access with quick moderation
Kai: quick moderation sounds tricky
ISSUE: how to open up access to WTF
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-5 - How to open up access to WTF ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/issues/5/edit .
<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to send feedback on the contribution guide for widgets test suites -- due 2009-07-07 -- OPEN
Kai: I've made some progress on
the regular widget tests suites http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/suite/
... still need to match it up with the test plan
... that needs an update since the assertions have changed
... I have spent some time filling up the test plan boxes
<hendry> Marcos: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/plan.html
Marcos: would like to expand on
what Dom has started by adding the notion of classes of
... and start by populating the tables
Kai: we already have that table
Marcos: the assertions are still changing a bit; I would need someone to review them btw
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to update the test plan with the latest assertions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/28-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-66 - Update the test plan with the latest assertions [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-08-04].
Kai: the other confusing thing is
Marcos' document with the extracted test assertions
... will it be different? the same document?
Marcos: I'd like to see a way to
match the plan to the assertions
... I could add an id to each line/paragraph
Dom: it would help if each
assertion had a more stable id than they do right now
... probably not a big deal for this doc, but would be useful going forward
... also, the notion of adding a class per assertion to classify per class of product would be great
Marcos: what about the review of test assertions?
Dom: I think we'll send feedback as we find problems in the assertions
Marcos: ok, I'll add ids to the assertions then
Kai: sounds really good
<trackbot> ACTION-63 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to add testing strategies to widget test contrbutions guide -- due 2009-07-07 -- OPEN
Marcos: a widget test contribution guide would be very useful
Kai: I'd be happy to improve my current doc if that's helpful
Marcos: We'll need a fairly wide
review of the test suite if we want it to be reliable and
useful, esp. if we're getting external contributions
... providing templates for building test cases would be useful
... maybe that's something we can work on together
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to work with Marcos on developing templates and contributions guide [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/28-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - Work with Marcos on developing templates and contributions guide [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-08-04].
<hendry> http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtqa;a=tree;f=misc; # templates used in the widget suite so far
Marcos: we'll see if there are templates we can contribute
Wilhelm: and maybe even test cases
Kai: what about licensing?
<dom:>Note that tests developed during this event will be made under the Policies for Contribution of Test Cases to W3C - in particular, contributors that do not belong to the W3C Web Applications Working Group or the W3C Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group will need to agree with the terms of the Grant of License for Contributed Test Cases Published Outside a W3C Recommendation.
<dom:>[as linked from http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/widget-test/ ]
<trackbot> ACTION-65 -- Kai Hendry to take a pass at updating test plan table -- due 2009-07-07 -- OPEN
Kai: I did that
<trackbot> ACTION-65 Take a pass at updating test plan table closed
<trackbot> ACTION-55 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look at WCTMB2 ideas -- due 2009-06-02 -- OPEN
<dom_scribe> Wilhelm's announce of possible mockup for WCTMB2
<trackbot> ACTION-55 Look at WCTMB2 ideas closed
Wilhelm: would need feedback on the proposal, as well as new technologies, and concrete test code
Kai: would be interesting to get
tests from webkit layout code
... I could look into that
<dom_scribe> # WCTMB2 Mockup
Wilhelm: one of the principles in
the current mockup is that you can get teh results through the
... would that be applicable here?
Kai: can't tell just now
... have you looked at them?
Wilhelm: I haven't studied them closely
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to submit proposals for WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/28-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-68 - Submit proposals for WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-08-04].
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review WCTMB2 proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/28-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Review WCTMB2 proposal [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-08-04].
<trackbot> ACTION-57 -- Kai Hendry to propose another blog on widgets testing -- due 2009-06-16 -- CLOSED
Wilhelm: we'll also have my article later on
Dom: what about blogging about the Dusseldorf event?
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to draft blog post about Dusseldorf widget testing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/28-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-70 - Draft blog post about Dusseldorf widget testing [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-08-04].
<trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
<dom_scribe> Dom's review on new OMA XHTML test suites
Wilhelm: I'll be away much of August; maybe available next week
Dom: same here
Kai: works for me
RESOLUTION: meeting next week, but no other meetings in August