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<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip
Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue
Addison: convert widgets comments
to a table and forward to webapps@
... set up document edit transition with dan for ws-i18n
richard: ask IanJ if we can publish charreq as a historical Note
richard: look at framework for i18n guidelines and suggest actions to take on document
ichard: publish qa-bidi-unicode-controls
richard: ready bp-html-bidi for publication, announce a review, and publish for review
richard: working on test suite,
particulary on text direction
... at link above
... can run in four mode
... also added section on vertical text
... need more of those
... xhtml 1.1 still works without need for css, even though served as xml
I propose that we leave as a Working Draft and set the metadata that will be available on the w3c beta site to say that this is obsolete-retired. It will then appear under Obsolete Specifications at http://beta.w3.org/standards/techs/i18n (and only on that page).
richard: had a look at this...
way out of date
... doesn't make sense to work on it any more
... would be weird since it the ideas captured are out of date
... spoke to IanJ and he suggested we leave it as-is
richard: and set metadata on beta
site (above link)
... to make it obsolete/retired
... or say it is superseded
... but then we need something to supercede it with
... so propose: leave as WD and mark as retired
<scribe> chair: anyone object to publishing as retired WD
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish i18n-guide-frameword as (retired, obsolete) WD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-core-minutes.html#action01]
addison: note their concern about ITS, our responses
richard: possibly <widget>
element should have dir?
... some confusion about scope of 'dir'
... they are talking about support for ITS, when they should talk about bidi support in widget packaging
felix: marcos happier to have dir
without its namespace
... can we porpose that?
addison: yes, can do that
felix: could also map from their
namespace to the its rules
... want to avoid control characters
yves: part of response is still weird
propose putting it on <widget> and removing its namespace?
addison: good start... wants to
be more than just a BP?
... some in xml BP from ITS
addison: not so much in UTR#20
richard: needs some rationales,
... very bare-bones at moment, so please send comments or comment in wiki
richard: charmodnorm wiki
... (link above)
... conformance criteria listed in first section
... and then have a new section for writing new conformance criteria
... put proposals in wiki or send via email
... have thought off-and-on about it
... gonna have to go back to CSS with late normalization
addison: concerned that we've already lost that battle
richard: clarify position and
... how far to push?
andrew: how far to push vs. what
can we do?
... put together BP for what is broken, what developers have to do, etc.
... may be no point pushing it, but they might react to "css is broken, do this to work around"
richard: changed the write up about internationalization
typo: This is widely used abbreviation (should have 'a' in there)
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