<trackbot> Date: 27 May 2009

<Steven> Zakim isn't very smart about call names, MoZ

<MoZ> Thanks, Steven !

<Steven> MoZ, are you joining?

<MoZ> yes

<Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0036.html

PER Issues

<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/xhtml1-issues-20090525.html

<MoZ> sribe: mgylling

<scribe> scribe: mgylling

ShaneM: Went through comments in issue tracking system, I have made a recommendation in most cases

8407 is marked closed, dont know why it remains in the document

Shane: 8413: is about inconsistency between normative prose and appendix c. But issue with colons in values remain. We could change the regex.
... all our REQs require namespaces, right?
... The problem is that in XHTML 1.0 2nd Ed, the reference section got marked as informative.
... this is fixed now.
... whats the process for comments on RECs?

Mohammed: propose solution, give submitter chance to comment/object again

Steven: in this case, only if we disagree with the proposed solution would we have to get back to the submitter. But in this case, we agree fully with the proposed solution.

Shane: all agree that XMLNAMES ref should be normative, and that mediatypes document should be update to not recommend colons in @id

Steven: its normatively not allowed since we normatively reference XMLNAMES, so yes, we should change the mediatypes document

Shane: Next issue. 6227
... Steven did reply to this
... changing 6227 to closed.

Next: issue 8408

Steven: since this text is no longer in the spec, this comment does not apply.

Shane: and the reference to mediatypes document is informative.

Steven: we should consider moving this comment to be a comment on the mediatypes document
... Next: issue 6504

Shane: we removed the name attribute from form and image, I think by accident. But in the DOM, name on form and image is still relevant.

Steven: is name on image only used for DOM access?

Shane, yes as far as I know.

<Steven> name = cdata [CI]

<Steven> This attribute names the element so that it may be referred to from style sheets or scripts. Note. This attribute has been included for backwards compatibility. Applications should use the id attribute to identify elements.

Steven: @name was deprecated in HTML4.

Mohammed: the rationale is that everybody is saying that XHTML1.0 must be to the letter what was HTML4. If there is evolution, it must be pushed to 1.1 or 2.0

Steven: its still on a, input, map, param etc, so it does seem like this as an omission.
... does putting this back take us out of PER territory? Think not, since it wont break any existing XHTML 1.0 documents.

Mohammed: adding new documents to the valid space is similar to what XML 5th Edition did.
... think its fine to add attributes back to DTD without leaving PER

Shane: prose needs to be updated too.

Mohammed: yes: end of 4.10

Steven: no, that section does not have to be changed, but the DTD does.

Next issue: 8410

Shane: the guidelines are now gone.

Steven: similar for 8418

Next issue: 8019

Since this is proper XML, the comment does not apply.

Mohammed: ampersand has to be escaped, full stop.

Steven: Next issue: 8416

Mohammed: the XML specification defines the meaning of whitespace.

Shane: suggests a longer virtual F2F
... will send a suggestion on times

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0036
Found Date: 27 May 2009
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