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<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report
<shadi> [discussing on data table versus nested list]
wilco prefers table approach
<shadi> Wilco: list looks cluttered
<shadi> ...could be styled
wilco: a table makes more sense
Tom: too much colour could confuse people
eric: we have to show that if a criterion fails, the whole thing fails
<Eric> http://www.accessibility.nl/voorbeeld/toets.htm
shadi: wilko's proposal has another layer, you can't see where the error occurs
eric: I like the visual approach through the background-colour
shadi: the checkpoint number is linked to the requirements
group: likes the prposed table
wilko will ask if we can adopt something for our project
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/tmp/survey_before
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/tmp/survey_after
eric: drop-down-list shows best practice
... input-fields should be signed as required by a star that get lost
wilco: the wrong sequence of the input-boxes is
not reaaly inaccessible, just annoying
... what about error-messages?
shadi: yes, I'm working on that
Tom: in real life people have client based validation, that is aweful
shadi: for this time we'll do it at the server-side, ARIA is on the wishlist
eric: preselected gender that is ignored?
... nothing should be preselected
shadi: eric, could you care about the styling?
<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/v3/
<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/v4/
<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/v5/
wilco: v3 shows connection to the annotations
<Eric> left aligned: http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/v6/
shadi: people can't imagine that they can click on anything at the grey area
tom: v6 makes it obvious, that annotations are assocoiated to the code
<Eric> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/v7/index-annotated.html
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009May/0036
group: agree to take v6 and shadi will show that at first...
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/
<Wilco> http://www.minaz.nl/
eric: this solution is not the best, but we should keep it
Tom: but won't lose anything, if we keep the link away from the headings
wilco: we should raise the clickible area by using a bit of script
<shadi> next meeting: tentatively 3 June