W3C

SemWeb Deployment Working Group

19 May 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2009-05-05

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Sean Bechhofer, Jon Phipps, Antoine Isaac, Ed Summers, Guus _Schreiber
Regrets
Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta
Chair
Guus
Scribe
Ralph, Antoine

Contents


Admin

RESOLVED to accept minutes of the last telecon http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html

RESOLVED next telecon 2 June

SKOS

-> editor's draft of SKOS Reference

(currently $Revision 1.8$)

Sean: editorial tweaks discussed in mail are almost complete
... so nearly done w/Reference

ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01]

[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]

Guus: issue-214 still open

Antoine: That doesn't really concern SKOS; it's about RDFa

Ed: that was my feeling as well

-> issue 214

Ed: DanBri's comment was about something in loc.gov

Ralph: is DanBri citing something in one of our documents?

Guus: no, an LC document

Antoine: so change the tracker product to RDFa

Ralph: but if this is going to be a frequent mistake maybe we should consider adding some advice

Guus: that could go in the Primer

Ralph: yes

Guus: so we conclude this does not affect the Reference?

<Antoine> +1

[no objections]

<seanb> +1

<edsu> +1

Guus: therefore no outstanding CR comments

Sean: regarding URIs in Appendix C
... there are references to namespace documents
... which URIs should I use?

Guus: we'll take that up in a moment

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]

-> SKOS Primer Editor's Draft

Ralph: I presumed we'd publish the Primer together with the Reference Proposed Rec

Guus: yes

-- UCR document

Antoine: I added some historical notes
... and added links to the issue tracker

Guus: I suggest publishing the Use Cases as a Group Note at the same time as the Proposed Rec

<Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html

Antoine: I added cross-references to the UCR: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html#Candidate

PROPOSED: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a Group Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published

<Ralph> +1

RESOLUTION: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a Group Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published

-- Namespace document

Guus: what's the state of the labels in the namespace document?

Sean: discussion on the list
... there's an HTML variant and an RDF/XML variant
... the HTML variant had a lot of additional text which I've removed and put in an appendix
... so each variant only describes itself
... I believe the content is now OK
... the SKOS namespace document is served via content negotiation
... what URIs should I use for the OWL DL subset and the SKOS XL RDF/XML variant?

<seanb> Appendix C

Guus: the reference to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl in C.4. looks correct

Ralph: we've used that URI before, so OK to keep using it

Sean: what URI to use for the OWL 1 DL subset?

Guus: have we published it before?

Sean: no, but it is in the directory

Ralph: there's no particular reason why we could not use the 2008/04/skos/ space

Guus: and this is the DL version of the schema in 2004/02/skos

Sean: what should we call it?

<Ralph> skos-owl1-dl.rdf ?

Guus: fine with me

<seanb> I meant 2004/02/skos/skos-owl1-dl.rdf ??

<Guus> 2004/02/skos/owl1-dl.rdf ?

Sean: skos/owl1-dl.rdf is fine with me

Ralph: ok with me too
... it's a new RDF namespace so we'll need Director's approval

Guus: send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review

ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]

-- Implementation Report

Guus: looking at the issues list, of 29 issues 27 refer to implementations
... so I think there's ample evidence that the SKOS specification is being implemented

Sean: I'm slightly worried that the capture of the various constructs used in each vocabulary is not exhaustive
... the reports were not necessarily completely explicit
... in particular, I'm not sure that ordered collections have been implemented
... but 2 implementations do claim to use -xl

Guus: I couldn't find any details on the -xl implementations

Antoine: we do have one vocabulary that would benefit from label relations but we've not yet done it

Sean: I have an email from Simon Jupp that I could ask him to send to the list

Guus: -xl is an extension anyway
... it's clear that the main part of SKOS, in particular the mapping relations, is heavily used
... I don't feel the Group needs to put enormous effort into a systematic analysis
... with 27 implementations I feel we can say we're done

Sean: I'm happy to go with that

Guus: I'm happy to write some text with my findings for the transition request

Sean: can I consider this implementation report to be completed then?
... I'll paste the two tables into the HTML document

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html implementation report generated from the issues tracker

Sean: there are two additional tables generated from a Google spreadsheet

<seanb> google doc

Sean: should I paste the spreadsheet table into the implementation report?

Guus: yes

Ralph: yes

Sean: it's a hassle to do that paste so I'd like to do it only once

Guus: how about an image paste?

Ralph: no, that would be frowned on

Guus: I suggest freezing it now
... the implementation report does not have to be exhaustive

Sean: OK, I'll freeze and paste later today

ACTION: [DONE] Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current implementations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]

Transition Request

Guus: we've met the CR exit criteria

PROPOSED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to Proposed Recommendation http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with Appendix C edits

<Ralph> +1

[Ralph has to depart for another call]

RESOLVED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to Proposed Recommendation http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with Appendix C edits

ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]

Guus: once PR is requested, the WG gets out of the loop, and advisory committee vote, and the director decides

Guus: meeting is adjourned

ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current implementations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01]
 
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