13 May 2009

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Ashok_Malhotra, +035850487aaaa, +30281039aabb




<scribe> Scribe: Renato

Previous Actions

Caary forward action for RI/RW about Media Annotations

<scribe> ACTION: RI/RW to followup with Media Annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-pling-minutes.html#action01]

other items

add Social Web XG to Liaisons list

IEEE policy workshop (to events)

Policies in Cloud Computing - Giles Hogden

CC new feature is pay for the resources that you need on demand

4 characterisitces

1 - scalability (up and down)

2 - abstracted resources, virtulisation

3 - shared resources

4 - services on demand (pay as u go)

(my spelling is poor!)

<Giles> http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/

CC is really taking of....

real demanding network services...games....financial services

study of security - risk assessment - for CC

<Giles> http://wiki.enisa.europa.eu/index.php?title=A_user_perspective_on_Cloud_Computing_(i.e._SME)

scenario 1 - SME migrating from traditional to CC infrastructure

No 1 concern - confidentiality of the data

No 1 - availability

scenario 2 - ehealth

Scenario 3 - improve resilience - acceptable level of service provision (in the event of disaster etc...)

CC is ideal for a DoS attack!

Take down the entire cloud platform/users

scribe: policy related issues

authentication policies are less than optimal

eg Amazon gives one key (for all users)

<Giles> http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/2009-02-01/SQSDeveloperGuide/

<scribe> new policy language for "simple q service"

How to stop CC users from mounting attacks? How to sandbox the individual users?

ISO27002 - IT Governance Std - mainly for those operating CC infrastructure

Mapping internal Governance polices to distributed services - that u don't own

Distributed services - which legal framework applies ? Depends on jurisdiction?

Edge-nodes in different jurisdictions

Audits hard as you have no audit trial..

issues around liability...

<Giles> http://www.appirio.com/

passing the buck - outsourcing the outsourcers

Amazon Simple Queue Service (Amazon SQS) is a distributed queue messaging service



Amazon Simple Queue Service

Getting Started Guide (API Version 2008-01-01)


Marco - plan to synchronise with other Cloud initiatives?

Giles; yes

Ashok - other companies involved in what?

Giles - the study includes 25 experts (from major companies...) eg HP, IBM etc

Giles - terms of reference paper (not public)

Giles - report will be public

Giles - missing expertise on privacy...

Jan - are there new issues here (eg privacy)?

Giles - "service on demand" is a new issue

Giles - most are new policy issues rather than technical

Thanks Giles for the Presentation...clap clap clap


Geolocation and privacy

Any ideas/contribution for W3C to take on in this area

Uni Milan - some related work

Create a new wiki page on this topic area - collect related works, projects etc

Review of Wiki activities

no added items

add a wiki page for GeoLocation...Cloud Computing


PICOS - in architectural phase

Social Web XG - teleconf just started


Giles - offers the island of Crete!

Ashok - TPAC?

<Giles> I have to go on time...


next meeting 10 June


Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: RI/RW to followup with Media Annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-pling-minutes.html#action01]
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