W3C

RDF in XHTML Task Force

16 Apr 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2009-04-02

Attendees

Present
Manu Sporny, Ralph Swick, Ben Adida, Steven Pemberton
Regrets
Mark Birbeck, Michael Hausenblas, Shane McCarron
Chair
Ben Adida
Scribe
Manu Sporny

Contents


Action Items

ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [WITHDRAWN]

ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: [DONE] Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html about resolving relative URIs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

ACTION: [DONE] Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]

@prefix discussion status

benadida: Wanted to have a meta-discussion on @prefix.
... Should we hold off on the @prefix discussion?

Steven: AC meeting was good because we got to talk about all of the companies that were using XHTML2.

benadida: There seemed to be a big disconnect between WHATWG/HTML5 and the ideas and usage behind XHTML2.
... If you are going to support extensibility in HTML5, how are you going to ignore all previous XML technologies?

prefix="a=b c = d"

<Ralph> previous @prefix discussion

<Ralph> <ShaneM> (.*)[\s\r\n]*=[\s\r\n]*(.*?)[\s\r\n]+

<Ralph> ^Shane proposed that regex

Manu: After the discussion last week, I think we agreed on Shane's regex.

ACTION: Manu to update wiki page on current consensus for @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

benadida: What do you think about @xmlns over @prefix?

Manu: Prefer @prefix because of HTML4 and xmlns: might be confusing to web developers.

Ralph: Might be interesting to see how HTML4->HTML5 conversion process works.
... The SVG folks have the same issues with xmlns not being in HTML5.

benadida: So this issue is much bigger than RDFa.

Ralph: Yes, it has to do with general extensibility.

benadida: @prefix wiki page should say it is an alternate prefix mapping mechanism.

Ralph: There is a danger in confusing authors by having two mechanisms to do the same thing.

benadida: So if we have a syntax, we can back-burner it and see what happens with the xmlns discussion.

Report on AC meeting

benadida: Kinda talked a bit about this already.

Ralph: Yes, interested in hearing your take on it.

benadida: Very positive meeting in tone and approach, Sam Ruby is a good guy.

Task Force lifespan

benadida: How much time does the task force have?

Ralph: The end of June is the charter.

Steven: XHTML2 charter is up in December 2009.

Ralph: It could be June-December, depending on who continues to sponsor RDFa Task Force.
... I think we should consider June the adjournment date.
... We could turn the mailing list into an RDFa interest group, maybe fold it back into semantic web interest group.

benadida: We should think about any last things we should think about as a task force.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Manu to update wiki page on current consensus for @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html about resolving relative URIs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[DONE] ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]
 
[WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
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