W3C

Semantic Web Deployment Working Group

07 Apr 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2009-03-24

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta, Guus Schreiber, Antoine Isaac, Ed Summers
Regrets
Sean Bechhofer, Ben Adida
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ralph

Contents


Admin

RESOLVED to accept http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html minutes of 24-March telecon

RESOLVED next telecon 21 April, Guus to scribe

SKOS

Tom: I noted a couple of issues in SKOS Reference
... do we have enough folk here to discuss these?

-> Adding to Section A.3 the statement: "skosxl:prefLabel, skosxl:altLabel and skosxl:hiddenLabel are pairwise disjoint properties."

Antoine: I think this is a matter of omission
... when I first looked at it I thought it could be handled by the semantics of the core properties and the dumbing-down rules
... I don't think we ever thought the semantics would be different

Ralph: I think we should make the change and note it was an error of omission

Guus: agree

Tom: issue 189 is still open
... I think we resolved to close it

Antoine: it should be in the minutes of the previous meeting
... but I do not see it mentioned there; we overlooked it
... can we decide it right now?

<Antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0059.html

Antoine: we did not receive negative feedback from Magnus

PROPOSED: close issue 189

[no objections]

RESOLUTION: issue 189 closed

Tom: issue 191 is still open
... Alistair has proposed to close -> 2009Mar/0039 [2009-03-14]

Tom: Addison accepted the proposed prose
... so message 37 can be the basis for closing issue 191

Ralph: that was my feeling when I made the case for publishing CR

RESOLUTION: issue 191 closed citing http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Mar/0037.html

Tom: note that issue 192 is raised

-> issue 192; CR Comment: missing bracket in example 44

Tom: Antoine proposed in [2009Mar/0012] changes to labels and definitions in the RDF file
... Whom to list as dct:contributor (SWAD-Europe, SWBPD, SWD, public-esw-thes)?
... I'd posted a long message [2009Apr/0009] on the content, titles, and status of the HTML representations
... I suggest we skip discussion of this until Alistair and Sean are present
... also question of OWL 1 DL prune of SKOS Ontology:
... -> 2009Mar/0071 [Sean 25 March]
... -> 2009Apr/0004 [Alistair 3 April]
... I suggest we postpone this discussion as well

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Antoine add the Vrieje Uni tool to the implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: [DONE] Alistair to write draft message call for implementations and issue to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]

-> draft email: Call for Implementations: SKOS Simple Knowledge Organization System [Alistair 2009-03-24]

<Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists

Tom: do we know what lists this message should be sent to?
... we should send it today

Antoine: I'm willing to send but I think we should change the date; 15 April is now too soon
... would 2 more weeks be compatible with our timeline?
... that would be a minimum, though personally I'd prefer more time

Tom: how about 30 April, matching our CR end

ACTION: Antoine send call for implementations to the lists identified in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists with the date changed to 30 April [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action03]

Tom: I noted that the legacy SKOS Core documents could usefully have forward links to the new specification

-- http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec/ - DONE

-- http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ - DONE

-- http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-thesaurus-pubguide/

- see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0079.html

-- http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html

Tom: I suggest that Antoine could create a single page pointing readers forward to the new SKOS Primer

Antoine: the Best Practices as well

Tom: yes

RESOLUTION: create intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS Core documents referring readers to the new specifications

ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS Core documents referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action04]

Tom: on the mapping vocabulary specification, we could use a page similar to the one for swbp-skos-core-spec

Antoine: sounds reasonable, I'll include it in my action

ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action05]

RDFa

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]

Recipes

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]

ACTION: [DONE] Diego to prepare new version of recipes note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]

<berrueta_> new Recipes draft

Diego: I send the new Recipes draft
... also I opened a new tracker issue
... issue 193

-> issue 193; HTML served to browser even when RDF is explicitely requested in the Accept header

Tom: we'll discuss this new draft at a future meeting

RDFa Metadata Note

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]

AOB

ACTION: [DONE] Guus to draft response to ian with thanks for addressing comments, happy to see revised documents, would favour new features document also to include rdf syntax [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]

-> Re: [LC response] To SWD WG [Guus 2009-04-07]

Tom: -> Request for WAI-ARIA review, Accessible Rich Internet Applications 1.0, Last Call
... I don't think we have enough resources in the WG to formally do this
... but if anyone has the time individually, please feel free
... comment deadline is 17 April
... do we need to send a formal reply?

Ralph: yes, please send what you just said

Tom: OK, I'll reply to Michael Cooper and CC the WG list

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/2004-11-11.html referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine draft intermediate pages for the legacy SKOS Core documents referring readers to the new specifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine send call for implementations to the lists identified in http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DisseminationLists with the date changed to 30 April [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-swd-minutes.html#action03]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine add the Vrieje Uni tool to the implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Alistair to write draft message call for implementations and issue to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to prepare new version of recipes note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Guus to draft response to ian with thanks for addressing comments, happy to see revised documents, would favour new features document also to include rdf syntax [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-swd-minutes.html#action11]
 
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