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<joakim> Scribe: Pierre-Antoine
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2009/03/24-mediaann-minutes.html
<pchampin> scribe: pchampin
minutes approved
joachim: last meeting before F2F
<joakim> who is shepazu please?
<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
about action 54: Véronique will submit the UC to the list within next week
scribe: if this is of interest to the WG
joachim: think it is interesting (lifecycle)
about action 94: should be re-assigned to Joachim
close action 95
close Action-95
<trackbot> ACTION-95 Invite david to the phone conference closed
close Action-96
<trackbot> ACTION-96 Update the Media Ontology 1.0 draft closed
Joachim: sent the Media Ontology draft to the mailing list
close Action-97
<trackbot> ACTION-97 Send a mail to ask if people would like to see QT and iTunes to be included in the short list of formats closed
about action 98: Thierry sent a mail to the list, some people (Véronique, Felix) replied
scribe: so if nobody else had comment, we can consider there is a consensus
close Action-98
<trackbot> ACTION-98 Ask the group for consensus on publishing the new version of the requirements draft closed
<joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0111.html
<daniel> ACTION ITEM 94 is changed to Joakim http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/94
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ITEM
Véronique: asking for approval on the mailing list will reach more people than asking at the F2F
<joakim> +1 for remove the mobile uc
<VeroniqueM> +1
<wonsuk> +1
<wbailer> +1
Véronique: how is the media ontology relevant to the "User generated metadata"?
pchampin: anything in user-generated metadata which fit in the media-ontology will benefit users from the point of view of interoperability
<joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0047.html
Joakim: mail from Felix, we have to agree on the table before publishing
<raphael> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0062.html
raphael: this has been solved, (see URL above)
<fsasaki> felix (reading IRC) agrees with raphael
raphael: provided the appropriate warning about the status of this table, it is ok to publish it
joakim: Thierry did the conversion from XLS to HTML. Who will do that now?
Wonsuk: will try
<joakim> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html
<joakim> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0043.html
some challengers and version numbers are still missing
raphael: I put my name on the
table, but I don't know where to start
... what kind of assessment should we provide?
... should we provide it on the mailing list or in the
wiki?
Joakim: a lot of mapping, so on the Wiki seems better
tobias: directly in the mapping table would be more convenient
joakim: will add columns in the stylesheet after F2F
How could we find missing challengers?
<raphael> could we put an action on Joakim to update the link of the sources on which we will assess the mappings ?
daniel: should contact everyone that could be a challenger
<raphael> when this action is due ?
<raphael> no dates for *my* actions, means no work :-(
publication of the media ontology due to 28-04-2009
mapping reviews due to 14-04-2009 (before F2F)
<raphael> thanks
<raphael> you can't asign an action to ALL for the tracker at least
Véronique: our proposal is not an implementation per se, rather a modelling based on SKOS that could back an implementation
daniel: required guidelines from people having done a toy implementation
joakim: what was the main goal of toy implementations?
<raphael> I think the toy implementations are meant to help designing both the ontology and the API
<raphael> pchampin: toy implementation to help seing which annotation properties will be used, help for selection
pchampin: and to validate which parts of the ontology and the API would *actually* be implemented
<VeroniqueM> and they are about using the ontology too, in my opinion, right?
joakim: the findings of implementors should probably be reported back to the mailing list
daniel: no feedback from volunteers except Véronique and Tobias, so we should double check with the other volunteers
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to send an e-mail to volunteer implementors to request feedback [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/31-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<raphael> trackbot, status?
<raphael> ACTION: Soohong Daniel to send an e-mail to volunteer implementors to request feedback [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/31-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Daniel to send an e-mail to volunteer implementors to request feedback [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-07].
<Zakim> raphael, you wanted to ask what's the output from Vero/Tobias, re: implementation
<raphael> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0122.html
pchampin: was expecting feedback on my implementation about the design decisions from the other people
<tobias> this is the email which initiated the thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Mar/0067.html
raphael: 2 ways of solving the
problems about syntactical issue
... either focusing at the semantic level (e.g. firstName
subPropertyOf name), or at the syntactical level (e.g. provide
mechanisms to transform the values)
<shepazu> apologies... I had the telcon scheduled for an hour later
raphael: the purpose of the
mapping should be only at the semantic level
... managing the syntactical discrepancies in the API is not
too hard
joakim: somebody should take the responsibility to collect experience from the implentors
pchampin: not sure of the form this collected experience should take, but I can try
raphael: is there an agenda for
F2F?
... need to decide on which timeslots I will join
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to draft an agenda for the F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/31-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<raphael> trackbot status
<raphael> trackbot, status?
doug: introduces himself
<raphael> ACTION Soohong Daniel to draft an agenda for the F2F
<trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Daniel to draft an agenda for the F2F [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-07].
<raphael> adjourned
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