W3C

Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconf

10 Feb 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
dom, Wilhelm, Kai, Carmelo, dmitri
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom

Contents


Widgets testing

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING]

<dom_scribe> Kai's update on widget testing

Kai: I've asked a question to Robert on the test harness to see if my pass/fail test cases can be pushed up to the test harness

Wilhelm: I'll follow up with Robert to make sure he gets back to you on this

Kai: is WTF a test harness?

Wilhelm: it's primarily a way to organize the tests

Dom: are the changes uploaded to the CVS server?

Kai: no, they are only on my git repository at this time

Device independent testing guidelines

<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Carmelo's comments

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Kai's comments

Kai: I had a few comments on the wording, and some additional ideas

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Wilhelm's success report

Wilhelm: what are the next steps on that document?

Dom: Once I have replied to Kai's comments and we come to agreement, we can publish it as a WG note, and announce it to the Chairs

Memory Test

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a W3C server [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]

Dom: no progress on this, sorry

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Kai's latest take on usability of memory test

Wilhelm: test looks OK to me - it worked well on my devices

Kai: it works well on devices that support it
... but on others, you may have to edit the URL

Wilhelm: maybe you should provide more starting values?

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]

Wilhelm: my primary device survived the highest threshold; would like to test it with higher limits
... hopefully we can do that once the test is on a W3C server

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11]

Web Compatibility Test

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]

Wilhelm: I'm now proposing that we import a test from one of the JavaScript frameworks
... they are widely deployed, and any browser that wants to support the real web need to support that
... running one test from one of these would certainly be quite relevant

Dom: sounds like a good idea; mildly concerned we might be seen as blessing which ever framework we choose

Wilhelm: jquery has the best test suite as far as I can tell

Kai: I think it's a good idea

Wilhelm: it's a bit heavy, but goes down to 18K once gzipped

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test in wctmb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13]

CTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]

<dom_scribe> Kai's proposed fix to canvas

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15]

<dom_scribe> Updated test with new canvas test

Wilhelm: have you managed to make it fail?

Kai: it fails when disabling javascript?

Dom: is there a browser that we know doesn't work with canvas?

Kai: IE

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16]

Blog

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]

Wilhelm: sent comments to Kai

Kai: I'll reply and post the blog

<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18] [PENDING]

Carmelo: I'll post that this afternoon to the list

Agreement on test suites with OMA

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING]

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING]

Next meetings

Dom: away on 17th and 24th

<hendry> canvas test fails in MSIE6 on a HTC Tytyn II btw

Wilhelm: we should still hold the teleconf
... I'll take care of sending the agendas

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test in wctmb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a W3C server [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
 
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