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HTML Weekly Teleconference

18 Dec 2008

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Attendees

Present
DaveSinger
Regrets
ChrisW, Gregory, RobinBerjon
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
MikeSmith

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 18 December 2008

<Hixie> hey i'm up at the time of the telecon

Agenda review

<scribe> scribenick: MikeSmith

MikeSmith: any suggestions for agenda to add?

<smedero> I don't...

[nothing to add]

General sync-up

DanC: can you call in for a bit?

HTML WG chair evolution

<rubys> Thanks, Joshue: Sam will need it. :-)

<DanC> Sam Ruby appointed co-chair for HTML Working Group, effective January 5 Michael(tm) Smith (Monday, 15 December)

<pimpbot> Title: Sam Ruby appointed co-chair for HTML Working Group, effective January 5 from Michael(tm) Smith on 2008-12-15 (public-html@w3.org from December 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

<DanC> Mike: DanC, what do you know about your participation going forward?

Julian: Sam blogged about the relationship with the XHTML2 WG, maybe can say a bit about that.

<DanC> DanC: it looks like I'll get funding to keep doing HTML 5 work, but can't give details yet

rubys: Philippe Le Hegeart said that there was no overlap, but there clearly is overlap

<smedero> Is this still hanging in the air, MikeSmith: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: proceeding with the position that there is no overlap [is not realistic]

overlap with XHTML 2 WG (issue-52)

rubys: clearly there is overlap because of the namespace

<DanC> issue-52?

rubys: I will object if I hear someone assert again that there is no overlap.

<trackbot> ISSUE-52 -- Resolve XHTML2 WG objections to language in HTML5 draft regarding XHTML1 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/52

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-52 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: my intent is to spend most of my time on HTML5
... I think the groups should either be merged or the overlap eliminated.

<Zakim> Julian, you wanted to state that incompaitble syntax for @rel is being defined (QName vs Cuie vs String/URI)

Julian: we have 2 groups that have come up with 3 incompatible syntaxes for @rel

<Hixie> rubys, yeah, agreed. seems like solving that problem solves the problem you mentioned automatically though, which is why it's relevant.

<DanC> (we have another issue specifically on rel...)

<DanC> issue-27?

<trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- RAISED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to observe overlap in (a) namespace (b) mime type (c) brand name

<smedero> DanC, If you are looking for it ISSUE-60 is the one dealing with the XHTML namespace...

DanC: the 1999 namespace is certainly overlap
... but beyond that, there is certainly the brand name

<DanC> (overlap is discussed in the "architectural vision" thingy from March 2007 cited from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#charter )

<pimpbot> Title: W3C HTML Working Group (at www.w3.org)

<DanC> action-62?

<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Michael(tm) Smith to get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization -- due 2008-12-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<DanC> . action-62 due xyz

<smedero> I can do it

<Hixie> danc, the w3c also publicly mentioned the branding issue in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/html-pressrelease (fwiw)

<pimpbot> Title: W3C Relaunches HTML Activity (at www.w3.org)

<DanC> yes, there's that too, Hixie

action-62 due next month

<trackbot> ACTION-62 get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization due date now next month

<smedero> seems to have worked

<DanC> action-62?

<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Michael(tm) Smith to get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization -- due 2009-01-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62

<smedero> "2009-01-18"

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

URL for the message from Hixie?

<Hixie> http://www.whatwg.org/status-2008-12

<DanC> http://www.whatwg.org/status-2008-12

thanks

<DanC> news to me: "- content sniffing to ietf (maybe adam barth as editor?)

<DanC> "

<Hixie> hold on

DanC: it was news to me that Adam Barth is interested in the content-type sniffing stuff

Hixie: he's sent mail about it.. it's a maybe

<DanC> # Content sniffing data from Chrome Dan Connolly (Friday, 24 October)

<pimpbot> Title: Content sniffing data from Chrome from Dan Connolly on 2008-10-24 (public-html-comments@w3.org from October 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

<DanC> ^ Adam Barth's work

<DanC> (on RDFa and data- attributes, we haven't made a tracker issue out of that; I wonder if that's worth doing)

<DanC> issue-14?

<trackbot> ISSUE-14 -- Integration of WAI-ARIA roles into HTML5 -- RAISED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/14

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-14 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<Joshue> +q

<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to observe "Last Call Working Draft in October 2009" and suggest trying that on the homepage

<Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/20

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-20 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-76 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<DanC> issue-32?

<trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

Joshue: a couple of things that are outstanding are the td/th @headers and table @summary

<Hixie> should i delay?

Hixie: no, I think would be good to go ahead

<Joshue> good stuff Ian

Joshue: there was a response from the PF recently

<Joshue> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE

<pimpbot> Title: HTML/SummaryForTABLE - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)

<DanC> (tracker thinks ChrisW has the ball on summary... action-76)

Joshue: that's a distilled overview of why we think @summary is important

<DanC> (taking a quick look at SummaryForTABLE , it seems to do better with NPOV than other summaries. nice.)

<dsinger> happy hols, everyone!! byee......

<DanC> *

<DanC> HTML/SummaryForTABLE (last edited 2008-11-24 12:35:42

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