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<trackbot> Date: 18 December 2008
<Hixie> hey i'm up at the time of the telecon
<scribe> scribenick: MikeSmith
MikeSmith: any suggestions for agenda to add?
<smedero> I don't...
[nothing to add]
DanC: can you call in for a bit?
<rubys> Thanks, Joshue: Sam will need it. :-)
<pimpbot> Title: Sam Ruby appointed co-chair for HTML Working Group, effective January 5 from Michael(tm) Smith on 2008-12-15 (public-html@w3.org from December 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
<DanC> Mike: DanC, what do you know about your participation going forward?
Julian: Sam blogged about the relationship with the XHTML2 WG, maybe can say a bit about that.
<DanC> DanC: it looks like I'll get funding to keep doing HTML 5 work, but can't give details yet
rubys: Philippe Le Hegeart said that there was no overlap, but there clearly is overlap
<smedero> Is this still hanging in the air, MikeSmith: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: proceeding with the position that there is no overlap [is not realistic]
rubys: clearly there is overlap because of the namespace
<DanC> issue-52?
rubys: I will object if I hear someone assert again that there is no overlap.
<trackbot> ISSUE-52 -- Resolve XHTML2 WG objections to language in HTML5 draft regarding XHTML1 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/52
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-52 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: my intent is to spend most
of my time on HTML5
... I think the groups should either be merged or the overlap
eliminated.
<Zakim> Julian, you wanted to state that incompaitble syntax for @rel is being defined (QName vs Cuie vs String/URI)
Julian: we have 2 groups that have come up with 3 incompatible syntaxes for @rel
<Hixie> rubys, yeah, agreed. seems like solving that problem solves the problem you mentioned automatically though, which is why it's relevant.
<DanC> (we have another issue specifically on rel...)
<DanC> issue-27?
<trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to observe overlap in (a) namespace (b) mime type (c) brand name
<smedero> DanC, If you are looking for it ISSUE-60 is the one dealing with the XHTML namespace...
DanC: the 1999 namespace is
certainly overlap
... but beyond that, there is certainly the brand name
<DanC> (overlap is discussed in the "architectural vision" thingy from March 2007 cited from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#charter )
<pimpbot> Title: W3C HTML Working Group (at www.w3.org)
<DanC> action-62?
<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Michael(tm) Smith to get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization -- due 2008-12-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<DanC> . action-62 due xyz
<smedero> I can do it
<Hixie> danc, the w3c also publicly mentioned the branding issue in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/html-pressrelease (fwiw)
<pimpbot> Title: W3C Relaunches HTML Activity (at www.w3.org)
<DanC> yes, there's that too, Hixie
action-62 due next month
<trackbot> ACTION-62 get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization due date now next month
<smedero> seems to have worked
<DanC> action-62?
<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Michael(tm) Smith to get XHTML 2 WG response to edits around name of XML serialization -- due 2009-01-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/62
<smedero> "2009-01-18"
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-62 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
URL for the message from Hixie?
<Hixie> http://www.whatwg.org/status-2008-12
<DanC> http://www.whatwg.org/status-2008-12
thanks
<DanC> news to me: "- content sniffing to ietf (maybe adam barth as editor?)
<DanC> "
<Hixie> hold on
DanC: it was news to me that Adam Barth is interested in the content-type sniffing stuff
Hixie: he's sent mail about it.. it's a maybe
<DanC> # Content sniffing data from Chrome Dan Connolly (Friday, 24 October)
<pimpbot> Title: Content sniffing data from Chrome from Dan Connolly on 2008-10-24 (public-html-comments@w3.org from October 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
<DanC> ^ Adam Barth's work
<DanC> (on RDFa and data- attributes, we haven't made a tracker issue out of that; I wonder if that's worth doing)
<DanC> issue-14?
<trackbot> ISSUE-14 -- Integration of WAI-ARIA roles into HTML5 -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/14
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-14 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Joshue> +q
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to observe "Last Call Working Draft in October 2009" and suggest trying that on the homepage
<Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/20
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-20 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-76 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<DanC> issue-32?
<trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
Joshue: a couple of things that are outstanding are the td/th @headers and table @summary
<Hixie> should i delay?
Hixie: no, I think would be good to go ahead
<Joshue> good stuff Ian
Joshue: there was a response from the PF recently
<Joshue> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE
<pimpbot> Title: HTML/SummaryForTABLE - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
<DanC> (tracker thinks ChrisW has the ball on summary... action-76)
Joshue: that's a distilled overview of why we think @summary is important
<DanC> (taking a quick look at SummaryForTABLE , it seems to do better with NPOV than other summaries. nice.)
<dsinger> happy hols, everyone!! byee......
<DanC> *
<DanC> HTML/SummaryForTABLE (last edited 2008-11-24 12:35:42
[adjourned]
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