W3C

SWD WG

16 Dec 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2008-12-09

Attendees

Present
Tom Baker, Sean Bechhofer, Ed Summers, Antoine Isaac, Alistair Miles, Ben Adida, Guus Schreiber
Regrets
Diego Berrueta, Ralph Swick
Chair
Guus Schreiber
Scribe
Sean Bechhofer/Antoine Isaac

Contents


Admin

PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon:

http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-swd-minutes.html

RESOLVED to accept minutes of the last telecon:

http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-swd-minutes.html

RDFa

ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

Recipes

ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]

Ben: nothing critical to report on RDFa

RDFa METADATA NOTE

ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

AOB

ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10] [CONTINUES]

SKOS

ACTION: Ralph to report on use of RDFa metadata in Recommendations. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: seanb to redraft response to peter on ISSUE-157, where skos doc props are annotation props, and rdf:value example is dropped from skos [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action07]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0058.html

ACTION: alistair send email with editors' draft proposed for CR before next telcon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-swd-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0077.html

<aliman> update on CR for SKOS Reference

ACTION: Antoine to write something in Primer wrt. ISSUE 160[recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action14] [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action09]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0072.html

ACTION: Antoine propose 1 or 2 SPARQL examples showing named graph usage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0069.html

Antoine: resulting from ccing skos list re 160 issue. Do you agree with what I'm trying to defend?

Alistair: Quick summary?

Antoine: Started after note re. SKOS Collection. People started to say that we should put all the
... BS5723 and ISO<whatever> into the model. But that's not the priority and will make things
... complicated

Guus: proposal on the table for the decision to request CR status for SKOS Reference.
... today Alistair sent message

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0090.html

<aliman> SKOS Reference Editors' Draft, proposed for candidate rec (rev 1.73)

scribe: Reference updated.

Alistair: all documents updated and ready to go.

Guus: Anyone want discussion on this?
... would like to see the issue list.
... one issue left. 157. Informal response from Peter. No problems anticipated.
... Document describing disposition
... Message from Sean describing at risk features

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0080.html

Sean: three features: namespace URI, relationship between mapping props
... and topConceptOf naming
... no change for 2 and 3
... but the namespace has been reverted to the original namespace

Guus: about the XL namespace?

Sean: current position: the XL namespace remain in the 2005/08 namespace

Guus: it should be part of our decision that we have two namespaces

<aliman> XL namespace: http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl

Guus: proposal is clear to everybody

<aliman> xl namespace has not changed since first published

Guus: request CR status for SKOS reference
... based on documents outlined in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0090.html
... I propose to accept the proposal

Antoine: I second

Guus: objections?
... RESOLVED
... I'd like to thank the editors.

<aliman> scribe should probably do "RESOLVED:" in IRC

ACTION: chairs to write the CR transition request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action11]

Guus: from now on we can focus on implementation report

<aliman> E.g. "RESOLVED: to request CR transition for SKOS reference based on documents outlined in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Dec/0090.html"

Guus: and the additional documents (primer, use cases)

Sean: can we close ISSUE 157?

Guus: yes
... how about the problem with doctype?

Alistair: if we're happy with the output of W3C validator there's no problem

Guus: did you ask any feedback from RDFa task force?

Ben: no time to read details, but I want to look at it

Guus: SKOS Primer
... it would be nice if we could republish Primer when the Reference is accepted

<seanb> scribenick: seanb

Antoine: the last paragraphs sent around are already in the
... editors draft. If these are ok, then it would be easy to republish. Almost the last things
... to be dealt with

Guus; So you're ready. Is review requried?

Antoine: At least one for editorial quality/santiy checks

Guus: Who were reviewers? Tom?

Tom: yes

Guus: Willing to check them?

Tom: yes

<edsu> TomB: thanks!

Guus: Antoine/Ed Happy to accept an action for new working draft?

Antoine: As long as there's not much feedback on recent paras. Would prefer action

Ed: attach to wiki or move into place?

Guus: Can still be on the wiki if tom's ok

Tom: ok

<Antoine>

Antoine: Would prefer to wait for feedback on the latest paras. Only my first try
... at this. Not checked by anyone yet.

Guus: Tom should review dec 16th veruibs

ACTION: Tom to review Dec 16th version of SKOS Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action12]

Guus: Can handle feeback in parallel.

<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=SKOSPrimer-081216.html

Tom: What's the deadline?

Guus: By beginning Jan. Call somewhere in first ten days. BTW, Alistair and Sean likely
... to be invited on to that call. We'll schedule separately.
... Propose to schedule call around 6th Jan, so review by then.
... Use case and requirement we can postpone for now.
... Implementation report can be on agenda for next call.
... propose next call on 6th Jan.

<TomB> +1 for 6 January

RESOLUTION: next call 6th Jan.

Guus: AOB?
... congrats to all on work well done. Looking forward to completion in 2009.
... Happy holidays

[meeting adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: chairs to write the CR transition request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Tom to review Dec 16th version of SKOS Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action12]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to report on use of RDFa metadata in Recommendations. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
 
[DONE] ACTION: alistair send email with editors' draft proposed for CR before next telcon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine propose 1 or 2 SPARQL examples showing named graph usage [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action14]
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine to write something in Primer wrt. ISSUE 160[recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action14] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: seanb to redraft response to peter on ISSUE-157, where skos doc props are annotation props, and rdf:value example is dropped from skos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-swd-minutes.html#action07]
 
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