Andrew: Welcome
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WAI-AGE/Drafts/slides/cl-waiage-slides.html
AA: latest update 24th November. To view statistics
AA: which is the minimum age - include the 50's
HBJ: asks for total number so can understand percentage
WL:yes to removing 50 and secondly not to forecast beyond 2025
AA: similarly for Japan to drop off 2050
WL:need to include a 'national' slide for the location of the presentation
AA: next slide has all EU countries
<SK: q+ source BBC should be ONS?
HBJ: queried the distant forecasts
AA: 2010 and 2020
AA: asks question between simple graph and actual figures
WL:graph and numbers
JW: graph and numbers - presenter can choose
HBJ: both?
HBJ: one with slides. one with numbers, one with both
AA: will email out when he has created the slides
HBJ: looking forward Britain slide: risk of removing the too much information
AA: is reviewing the source to put in intermediate projections to support comparison
SK:+q are we concerned about older employees or only retirees?
WL:has plans to use presentation - and suggest asking others who present eg Shawn
SK: what about older employees post 50
WL:no traditional retirees
WL: we do need to deal with people who are still working
AA: impairments start to develop from mid-40's; don't exclusively affect people over 65
JW: agreed with Andrew re younger old people beginning to experience changes to vision
AA: Ageing and functional impairments
AA: should these be shown as a graph maybe not comparable
WL:suggests these %ages are not nationally dependent
AA: characteristics of older web users - is now looking for better heading for 'findings 1 and 2'
WL:queries last bullet re download and plugins
JW: is that really a characteristic of older web users
WL:observed or inferred?
AA: scenario of older person who has had system set up by relatives and is less confident
JW: not a characteristic of age
AA: more a reflection of lack of other factors such as: experience and being newer to computers
AA: Findings 1
NM: not really findings
WL:this is a mapping with WCAG
AA: findings 2 are additional requirements
JW: perhaps should make the point that WCAG addresses these too
JW: will help to clarify that WCAG is all purpose
AA: will emphasis that WCAG is the key
AA: slides on docs for revision and docs planned - is this of interest to the audience, William had expressed a view that this will help encourage people to take part
AA: once published these documents become part of WAI not WAI AGE
AA: indication of status to be included in speaker notes
WL:better word that welcome: in Participation welcome
AA: asked for any other general comments
WL:participation: the audience for this presentation should be encouraged to go volunteer as senior citizen clubs etc
JW: slide "What can I do?" encourage people to go out and help others
AA: a sensible idea - will think about how to incorporate that
WL:refer to Web Foundation
AA: any other comments?
AA: next time - Shadi will report progress on before and after demo - will meet again in 2 weeks
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