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<trackbot> Date: 10 October 2008
<ed> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
<ed> we'll work on actions and read the LC comments and dial in in half an hour
<shepazu> I'm here... anything I can do? how are the Dr. Olaf comments going?
<ed> we're reading them...
<ed> if you haven't please do so, we'll dial in in 10 mins
<ed> I think ISSUE-2082 is something me might be able to move to core
<shepazu> k
<ed> he's right though, auto sucks if we followed what is in the spec ;)
<scribe> scribe: anthony
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2082
ISSUE-2082?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2082 -- attributeType auto -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2082
ED: I think he's right
... I think this is something we could postpone for SVG Core
instead
... because I'd like to make tests for this to figure out what
would be the most use friendly
... with his example it shows that a CSS width and height may
not apply to a rect
AG: How would you change
it?
... you'd have to reword it I guess
... I reckon put it on hold and move to the next one
DS: Same wording as 1.1
... so what's the reason for putting it off?
ED: CSS styling is not required
for Tiny
... and we haven't tested what implementations are doing
DS: We will address this in Core time frame
<scribe> ACTION: Anthony to Draft a response for ISSUE-2082 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/10-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2289 - Draft a response for ISSUE-2082 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-10-17].
Resolution: We agree with the comment, but we will address it in Core where it is more relevant
ISSUE-2083?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2083 -- Paced animation and complex types -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2083
ED: I think we have made some
fixes
... what worries me he says we have two tests for calc mode
paced
... and they are incorrect
... we currently have two implementations passing those
... All implementations pass animate-elem-82
... if what he's saying is correct is we have to change the
specs or the tests (and then get implementations to pass)
<ed> ...majority of impls. pass animate-elem-53
<scribe> scribe: anthony
DS: I'm wondering if implementations would pass his alternative
ED: I guess we can dig it up
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2007JanMar/0646.html
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2006Aug/0037.html
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Jan/0041.html
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Jan/0036.html
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Jan/0040.html
DS: Considering we are planning on doing improved animation in the future perhaps this is something we could address later on
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2007JanMar/att-0646/scalepaced01.svg
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2007JanMar/att-0646/translatepaced01.svg
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2007JanMar/att-0646/rotatepaced01.svg
ED: Those are tests for paced
animations
... I think that's what he's talking about when he submitted
some tests on the list
... but those haven't been reviewed
DS: So what are we going to do about the issue?
ED: Would be good if Cameron were
here to look at it
... I'll send an email to Cameron
... if the tests are incorrect we'll either have to change them
or remove them
ISSUE-2084?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2084 -- 16.2.9 values attribute 'extended syntax' -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2084
<ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0004.html related?
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/animate.html#Inheritance ?
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2010
ED: There is an ISSUE-2010 for 1.1. which is close
<ed> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/animate.html#ValuesAttribute
ED: He is commenting on the second paragraph on the values list
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/animate.html#ValueAttributes
DS: What existing content are we talking about here? Is this is something generated by one of the authoring tools?
ED: I think so. I think Cameron made some tests for this
AG: I do recall a discussion on this
DS: Didn't we decide this didn't matter that much
ED: So he's saying we should remove that paragraph all together
DS: That's what it looks like
ED: Just wondering if we'd have trouble by removing that
DS: I think we decided it didn't
have a strong use case to object to use correcting the error
here
... and we knew that there was content out there because of
authoring tools
... I'm tempted to reject the comment saying that we've already
discussed this and that it is a less than ideal solution in the
spec
... but it's due to auto generation of content rather than hand
authored
... it's something we can revisit at a later date
RESOLUTION: We've already made a decision on this issue to accommodate output from existing authoring tools and we may revisit it later
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to Reply to Dr. Hoffmann regarding ISSUE-2084 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/10-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2290 - Reply to Dr. Hoffmann regarding ISSUE-2084 [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-10-17].
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/results/TestFestOttawa.html
DS: There are 20 tests that are
at risk
... implementations that fix them should go ahead an update
this HTML matrix
... and then we will spot test verify at TPAC
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