ISSUE-2082: attributeType auto

attributeType auto

attributeType auto

SVG 1.2 Tiny: Last Call
Raised by:
Doug Schepers
Opened on:
Dr. Olaf Hoffmann
in 16.2.5 attributeType auto is defined:

The implementation should match the 'attributeName' to an attribute for the
target element.
The implementation must first search through its list of supported CSS
properties for a matching property name (all properties supported by the
implementation, not just those defined by SVG), and if none is found, search
the default XML namespace for the element.

1. Surprising (already in SVG 1.1) in comparison with the types XML and CSS
is, that it is not explictly required, that 'The attribute must be defined as
animatable in this specification'.
Is this intended? My guess is not, especially because for any attribute or
property is anyway already mentioned, whether it is animatable or not.
However that this is mentioned for XML and CSS, but not for auto is
inconsistent and a little bit confusing for the reader.

2. If for example a viewer like Opera supports CSS:width and CSS:height,
the definition seems to suggest, that in case of attributeType auto there is
no visible animation effect for SVG:width and SVG:height, because as far as I
understand CSS:width and CSS:height have no effect on the SVG elements,
SVG:width and SVG:height are applicable for.
My impression is, that this is neither useful nor intended.

Taking into account 1. and 2. especially '(all properties supported by the
implementation, not just those defined by SVG)' results in a situation,
where it is not predictable for an author anymore, whether an animation
will have a visible/intended effect in (later) implementations or not, because
the author cannot completely predict, which properties outside of SVG any
viewer may support, which may collide with the name of an SVG attribute,
therefore attributeType auto or no specified attributeType becomes useless
or even unpredictable for authors.
Assuming that this is not intended, this should be avoided/clarified/fixed in
the draft.
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  2. Minutes, 24 Oct 2008 SVG f2f (from on 2008-10-27)
  3. New wording for @attributeType (from on 2008-10-23)
  4. Re: [1.2T-LC] attributeType auto (ISSUE-2082) (from on 2008-10-16)
  5. Re: [1.2T-LC] attributeType auto (ISSUE-2082) (from on 2008-10-16)
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  9. Minutes, SVG telcon Tuesday 14 October 2008 (from on 2008-10-14)
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  11. Re: [1.2T-LC] attributeType auto (ISSUE-2082) (from on 2008-10-13)
  12. Minutes, SVG telcon Friday 10 October 2008 (from on 2008-10-10)
  13. Minutes, SVG telcon Thursday 9 October 2008 (from on 2008-10-09)
  14. Re: [1.2T-LC] attributeType auto (ISSUE-2082) (from on 2008-10-01)
  15. ISSUE-2082 (attributeType auto): attributeType auto [Last Call: SVG 1.2 Tiny ] (from on 2008-10-01)

Related notes:

Reworded value as requested

Anthony Grasso, 16 Oct 2008, 06:46:34

Commentor satisfied:

Doug Schepers, 16 Oct 2008, 15:05:14

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