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Nikunj: [comments in general support of un-conference stuff]
<Julian> MikeSmith: wants to use the F2F to make progress on test cases
<Julian> MikeSmith: proposes joint meeting with TAG
MikeSmith: first part of the morning on Thursday will be a joint f2f discussion with the TAG
<Julian> Joint meeting with TAG would be great
<smedero> An agenda would be good...
<smedero> as I believe TAG has a number of issues with HTML 5... not sure we can cover them all in a morning session.
- Treatment of URLs in the HTML5 specification
- Content-type determination
also possibly:
- Embedding of HTML in other languages
- Modularity of the HTML 5 spec
<Julian> - Modularity of spec (wrt other W3C and IETF specs)
<Julian> MikeSmith: explains W3C process with respect to advancing the spec and resolving issues with the TAG and the Director
<Julian> - relation to XHTML
<Julian> ?
<Laura> PFWG F2F topics of potential interest:
<Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0512.html
<pimpbot> Title: minor tweak to FYI PFWG F2F topics of potential interest from Al Gilman on 2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
<Laura> Al specifically asked to discuss tables with PF at the F2F:
<Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.html
<pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
<Julian> MikeSmith: desire of authors to use ARIA as currently implemented with HTML4 and validate it
<Julian> MikeSmith: Henri's validator.nu already does it for HTML5 (using RelaxNG+Java)
<Julian> MikeSmith: some people want DTD-based validation though
<Julian> MikeSmith: also more work needs to be done to describe precise semantics of ARIA in HTML
<Laura> The idea of a extension or bookmarklet for ARIA seems good.
<Laura> Henri's suggestion of serializing the DOM and sending it to an external service could work equally as well. But it doesn't have to be his service.
<Laura> The Web Developer extension in Firefox has an option to validate the local HTML, and that works by sending the generated source to the validator, which is the same idea.
<pimpbot> Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Issue Tracking - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Laura> Chris: Last week for action 72 @headers, you mentioned that you would "follow this up. Get the issues into the wiki and continue discussion until there is a consensus. If opinion is very entrenched then we will have a poll."
<Laura> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080925#l-347
<pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: w3c / #html-wg / 20080925 (at krijnhoetmer.nl)
<Laura> The Wiki has been updated to try to cover all perspectives.
<Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders
<Laura> I also invited James and Henri's input.
<Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0506.html
<pimpbot> Title: HTML/IssueTableHeaders - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
<pimpbot> Title: Re: headers Wiki page from Laura Carlson on 2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
anybody have comments or question about open actions/issues in the Tracker dashboard page at the URL above?
<smedero> Laura, is that poll mention in http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76 ?
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-76 - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<smedero> ahh, that's the @summary..
<Laura> Al asked discuss tables at the F2F
<Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.html
<pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)
<smedero> SM: I remember the Sept. publishing goal was pushed back ... and I think we're now in the publishing moratorium?
<anne> MS: There are ongoing internal discussions that haven't been resolved yet
<anne> MS: We're not going to publish the HTML5 draft before TPAC