Media Annotations WG

<raphael> Frank Nack and I will share a phone

<frank> hi all

<fsasaki> ACTION: Felix to check WG participant mailing list subscription mechanism to make sure that new participants are subscribed automatically [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Check WG participant mailing list subscription mechanism to make sure that new participants are subscribed automatically [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-10-07].

<fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2008Sep/att-0081/00-part

review of agenda / minutes approval

something asking about how to have the meeting

fsasaki: for today we will not discuss much, but mainly go briefly through each issue and distribute action items.

<fsasaki> previous minutes approved: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/23-mediaann-minutes.html

Selection of scribe for next meeting

fsasaki: next week will be Oct 7. 13 UTC

<wbailer> i volunteer for scribing next week

fsasaki: that's great.

Future telephone conferences and f2f meetings / call time

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/december-f2f/results

fsasaki: Dec. 9,10 including joint meeting with Media Fragments WG

raphael: media fragments WG decided last week, f2f meeting, on Dec 9, 10

<dsinger> alas, dec 9,10 I will be at a Blu-ray meeting (probably Japan)

Action items

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

fsasaki: only one, new added. check the scribe and emails

<raphael> wonders whether the group participants should create a wiki account of if such an account has already been created?

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Main_Page

fsasaki: you can edit wiki pages with your w3c login name / pw for this working group

Open issues

Joakim: many candidate use cases relate to mobile aspects

<Joakim> ACTION: Joakim to describe mobile aspects to use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Describe mobile aspects to use cases [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2008-10-07].

<fsasaki> 6054 Formats in scope / out of scope http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/formats/results

fsasaki: did not have lots of responses on 6054
... delay discussion of the questionnaire again

<frank> regarding the mobile use case: is the aim to add automatically localisation data - as for images on flickr?

<fsasaki> 6064 Use case "Services by using an unified media annotation"

fsasaki: call for volunteer to provide more information
... and put the information for the use case to wiki

Tobias: will put XG related use case into the WIki

<fsasaki> ACTION: Tobias to put XG use cases into wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-8 - Put XG use cases into wiki [on Tobias Bürger - due 2008-10-07].

6065 Use case "Video on IPTV"

fsasaki: any ideas about this one ?

wbailer no use cases linked with video at all expect this one

fsasaki: ask somebody to elaborate this use case

Joakim will do this

<Joakim> ACTION: Joakim elaborates on the video use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-9 - Elaborates on the video use case [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2008-10-07].

6066 Requirement "Covering variations across locales"

fsasaki: anybody want to work on this requirement ?
... propose to drop it ?

Dave: pretty tricky one, maybe leave it, will provide more information later

ACTION-9 Dave to elaborate 6066

<scribe> ACTION: Dave to elaborate 6066 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Dave

<dsinger> dsinger

6067 Use case "Audiovisual archive as a Cultural Heritage institution"

fsasaki: any volunteers want to create information in wiki

<raphael> Veronique is interested in this use case

<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to create information in wiki about 6067 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ??

Vassilis: what about split the use case into two

werner: application / technique points of view, interoperate problem, search problem

Vassilis: very important issue, not only ontology, but more to be covered

<frank> if the search problem is seperated - what is the difference to 6083

fsasaki: we have to see the result to seperate 6067

6068 Use case "Metadata to help promoting safe environments"

fsasaki: ask for volunteer to work on this oen

<raphael> this use case comes from the POWDER WG

<raphael> ... and Phil Archher

fsasaki: more discussions were required

6069 Use case "Multi media and semantic web technologies"

fsasaki: too general, will be dropped

<raphael> agree to drop

6077 Use case "Photo"

fsasaki: call for volunteers to work on it

Felix: look for volunteers 6083

Vassilis: it's too specific to semantic technology, also to multi media

6078 Use case "Music"

fsasaki: use wiki to write is recommend

6085 Use case "multimedia sharing"

fsasaki: call for volunteers to produce material
... volunteers for 6086, 6109 ?

<frank> happy to fill in 6084 and 6086

<scribe> ACTION: frank will work on 6084 and 6086 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Will work on 6084 and 6086 [on Frank Nack - due 2008-10-07].

6113 Requirement "Allowing for a simple API, abstraction in the ontology, and a clear mediation inbetween"

<dsinger> I like the way this is phrased! (Maybe it was from my mail)

fsasaki: explaining 6113 , question is how to make it happen

ACTION dsinger will work more on this issue 6113

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - dsinger

Raphael: it would be better have a idea what does it mean to provide this API

Raphael: better to postpone this issue when ontology is ready

fsasaki: if we postpone work on the API, we will be very slow, and the relation between the API and the ontology will become unclear & hard to create later. Maybe we should work on both of them at the same time.
... most of people here are interested on ontology, so I am also looking for people to working on this API

6126 Machine readable license data

fsasaki: already discussed a lot in the mail list, any feeling whether we need to specify ontology on this kind of data

rapheal: IPTC, they did some work on it, the result is to put this part as a link to other vocabularies, such as MPEG-21,

<frank> I agree with Raphael

<davy> +1

<wbailer> +1

<vassilis> +1

fsasaki: it's a good approach
... it's a good approach
... thanks for all,

<fsasaki> thanks for scribing, hui