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Roland: Is there a registration page?
Steven: Yes, see http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
Alessio: I am planning to come
<Tina> I am integrating her comments in the article - tho not as we speak.
http://www.dev-archive.net/articles/xhtml.html
Roland: I see Christina has sent a review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Sep/0013.html
Steven: I have some comments
Tina: It was good. Mostly linguistic changes from Christina.
Steven: Domain experts
Tina: I will be rewriting that
Steven: CSS instead of RDF
Tina: Knowledge of semantics allows the browser to take the realities of the user into account
Roland: Who is the reader?
Tine: Good point. I shall add that at the beginning
Steven: Prudction vs consumption
... Using media type to get it into the browser
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to send examples of media type heuristics to Tina [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
Roland: Anything else?
Tina: No that's good.
... Please send me email comments if you have them.
Steven: W3C is fully involved with the W3F last week; I expect we can have a call when the dust settles
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0035
Roland: I remember talking about this in venice
Steven: Isn't the problem with name clashes with Common attributes?
Roland: Yes
... @ raise instead of @event
Steven: @event is a common attribute, should we
incorporate XML Events into XHTML2
... if we decide to use XML Even6ts without namespace prefixes, then no
element may have an attribute called event
Roland: I don't think it is generally true that
@raise would suggest exceptions rather than events
... I don't think we can do much about this one
Steven: We could ask for more suggestions
<alessio> agree
Roland: @destid rather than @target
Steven: Again @target is taken as a Common attribute
Roland: What does it do?
Steven: It says you are only interested in events that have been targetted to that element
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xml-events-20080625/
Steven: Oh it's changed
@destid is now @to
scribe: so that one is solved
Roland: And what happened to the action
element
... still @targetid
Steven: @target is used for @href
Roland: addEventListener has an attribute called taget?
Steven: No, an attrivute that has target as a value
Roland: Where is @target defined
Steven: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtml-modularization-20080813/abstract_modules.html#s_targetmodule
Steven: In M12N 1.1 it is a module that ads @target to several places
Roland: Frames?
Steven: Well, 'environment'; see XHTML Basic 1.1
"The target attribute is designed to be a general hook for binding to an external environment (such as Frames, multiple windows, browser-tabbed windows); when there is no such external environment bound to the user agent, the user agent can ignore the target attribute. When there is an external environment bound, the conformance requirements for the target attribute are defined in each environment."
Steven: M12N should say that too really; too late now though
Roland: Type ID?
Steven: Interesting
... M12n says CDATA
<ShaneM> CDATA is correct for @target
Roland: Would it matter that we left target on some elements?
Steven: You're suggesting we could use the same
definition of target on dispatchEvent
... hmm, possible
<alessio> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/WD-xhtml-access-20080107/
Roland: @target just becomes contextual
... the only place it would be problematic would be if you couldn;t determine
the context
Steven: I'm not sure if I like it
<ShaneM> The problem is that if it is in Common it will collide
Steven: I need to let it sink in
<ShaneM> and in XHTML 2 it would need to be in Common
Well, Shane, we would use the one in Common, that is the suggestion
Roland: Well we can noodle on it for a while
<ShaneM> I don't think you can. XML Events 2 is independent of XHTML 2. Implementation-wise it could use Common's definition, but we would still have to define it in XML Events 2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0029
Steven: They are asking why we renamed to dispatchEvent
Roland: We'd have to look at the minutes
... maybe because it was different from the one in XForms
Steven: I'll talk to them in the next hour
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<alessio> bye, have a good day :)
rrsahgent, make minutes
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