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<trackbot> Date: 09 September 2008
<scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL
<ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/2
ED: looking over the open actions and issues
DS: ACTION-2155 is done
close ACTION-2155
<trackbot> ACTION-2155 Add the keyboard events from DOM 3 Events to an SVGT12 appendix closed
ED: ACTION-2159 had some mail recently about loadEnd
DS: Those were not on list. Only WG members can post to the list. liaisons whould crosspost to www-svg
ED: Looks like loadEnd is being added, not defined when its dispatched, before or after load.
CL: Is there any downside to defining the order?
ED: WebApps seems to want it
before the load event. Need to check current
implementations
... fine either way
... progress event might define it differently, would be a
problem
CL: If there is a risk of conflict with an uncompleted spec, better to defer to progress events
ED: Agree
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#events__ProgressEvent
Resolved: leave loadEnd dispach order undefined, add informative link to Progress Events
close ACTION-2159
<trackbot> ACTION-2159 Do progress event name change to Tiny 1.2 closed
ED: ACTION-2164 role attr
ACTION-2164?
<trackbot> ACTION-2164 -- Doug Schepers to add 'role' attribute (and informative reference to XHTML Role attribute module) and to change the content model of the title and desc elements to be text -- due 2008-08-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2164
DS: Feedback is currently being intregrated. role is done, text for title and desc is done, algorithm needs work
ACTION-2174?
<trackbot> ACTION-2174 -- Erik Dahlström to remove the 'this' keyword binding in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are put in the global scope -- due 2008-08-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174
DS: what about adding rel (and
rev? but discouraged) for microformats
... would not hurt to add it
ED: Just strings?
DS; Only allowed on anchors (a elements)
CL: Would add interop with microformats, but the microformat code would still need to be told to look in SVG for microformats
DS: AUs which already get rel and rev probably dont care on the format, they just look for those attributes
CL: Wonder if their code is depending on span (we have tspan)
DS: Sloppy software will tolerate
the attributes not being on a given tag, just looking for
attributes.
... good point of convergence with HTML
... might also help with RDFa
... RDFa is less verbose, too, than RDF/XML
CL: In favour of adding rel and rev
ED: Impact on spec?
DS: Same description as HTML 4 (or 5) and add example taking into account microformats
CL: IG might like to discuss microformats in SVG
Resolved: Add rel and rev to the SVG a element
CL: Since we have xlink:title and also the title element (for machine readable content) so there isn't the overlap
(discussion on hint element and aria roles)
<scribe> ACTION: Doug to add rel and rev to the svg 'a' element [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2185 - Add rel and rev to the svg 'a' element [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-09-16].
ACTION-2121?
<trackbot> ACTION-2121 -- Chris Lilley to respond to Julien on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html re getURL -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2121
look here /SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#svg__SVGGlobal
<ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#svg__SVGGlobal
A.8.21 AsyncURLStatus
compare with http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/#text-response-entity-body
ED: fine with a clarification as log as its in sync with XHR
ACTION-2121: Change spec to clarify its not just text/*, not just HTTP, and use the specified encoding
<trackbot> ACTION-2121 Respond to Julien on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html re getURL notes added
ED: Do the commit and we can discuss if its not right
ACTION-2099?
<trackbot> ACTION-2099 -- Chris Lilley to review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back -- due 2008-07-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2099
ID is in twice, the Perl needs to be modified
CL: I am happy t make the table of links to attr definitions, id Anthony fixes the Perl
ED: This can be done during last call
<scribe> ACTION: Anthony revise tools/tables/maketables.pl to add attribute definition links and fix duplicate id entry [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2186 - Revise tools/tables/maketables.pl to add attribute definition links and fix duplicate id entry [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-09-16].
close ACTION-2099
<trackbot> ACTION-2099 Review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back closed
close ACTION-2174
<trackbot> ACTION-2174 Remove the 'this' keyword binding in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are put in the global scope closed
ACTION-2174?
<trackbot> ACTION-2174 -- Erik Dahlström to remove the 'this' keyword binding in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are put in the global scope -- due 2008-08-31 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174
ED: More useful to keep the
behaviour in the spec, ikivo implemented per spec, so better to
leave it as is
... ACTION-2148 depends on HTML WG
ACTION-2148?
<trackbot> ACTION-2148 -- Doug Schepers to take up ISSUE-2031 with the HTML WG -- due 2008-08-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2148
DS: Will talk to Hixie about this
DS: On track for this friday
publication. Please ensure actions done. Jules confirmed Friday
publication. 4 week last call.
... moratorium before TPAC and also PLH said no way to get w3m
processing right before TPAC so he suggests it be discussed
during TPAC
... Doug and Chris can do it in person that way, too
... so publish after TPAC
... for press activity, be aware that Thanksgiving in there.
Ian Jacobs, head of comms said that a press release is ok for
Rec
... press release expected to be helpful for implementors and
users
... will check with the JIS people
AG: JIS contacted me before this telcon, happy with that schedule and will do Japanese translation during November
DS: Also contacting JSR-287 folks about this
AG: Patches mostly complete
... one more day for Andrew and I to complete
... adressing issues on the wii as we go
... comparing refs against opera, biftflash and batick.
updating patches as needed.
<anthony> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-fonts-04-t.svg
AG: this test here has a problem
<anthony> status="accepted"
<anthony> approved="no"
CL: Unchanged form 1.1, should be approved, description is good
<anthony> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-align-202-t.svg
AG: also this one
<anthony> http://members.iinet.net.au/~ossarga/text-align-202-t/
inkscape is correct
but I want to check with someone that knows arabic
ED: So publishing the spec by friday
DS: Better to have a dated version so implementors know what they tested against
CL: Need to check with no keyword substitution
<scribe> ACTION: Chris ensure test suite published on Friday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2187 - Ensure test suite published on Friday [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-09-16].
DS: rev is deprecated, maybee just add rel not rev
<scribe> ACTION: Chris ask Tantek for advice on adding rev [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2188 - Ask Tantek for advice on adding rev [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-09-16].
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