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Felix and Daniel welcome everybody
<scribe> ACTION: all to write a short introduction on the public mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - all
There will be a scribelist, alphabetically sorted
Once one has scribbed, he goes down on the list
Questionaire sent to the list by Felix
The time seems to be OK, i.e. 13:00 UTC
Nobody from the US West Coast yet ...
Tuesday is the best day
Frequency: weekly telecon
APPROVED: telecon every Tuesday, 13:00 UTC
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to book the bridge for the weekly telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Book the bridge for the weekly telecon [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-09-16].
Current alternative chairs are Felix (also team contact) and Daniel
Call for volunteers for co-chairing
scribe: should contact Daniel and Felix first
Felix goes through the list of current resources
scribe: The group will work on public
... charter, mailing
list, homepage
<Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to ask if there's a member-only list as well?
Phil: is there a member mailing list?
So far, only a public mailing list
Good standing requirement
Felix asks for whom is the first participation in a WG
Daniel and Veronique: first time
IBBT: participated in XG before
Felix gives a brief estimate of time effort: one working day for each participant, 2 days for editors
We are using IRC, Zakim, RRSAgent, and tracker
Felix encourages participants to look at the manual of these bots
scribe: mandatory for the scribe
... any questions, contact Felix
... also plan to use bugzilla
... bugzilla takes
some time to get used to it
... please enter issues in the system, but do the
discussion on the mailing list, using the issue ID. See as an example http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0107.html
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to give a cvs access to Daniel and to the editors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Give a cvs access to Daniel and to the editors [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-09-16].
We want to set up an XML based environment for editing the specs
scribe: not force to use JAVA Eclipse
... a new version of
Eclipse will be described by Felix and/or Phil
... more up-to-date information
soon
Editing location is: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/
Felix goes through the list of the documents the group will produce
The group will start with the Requirements and Use Cases
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to prepare the editing environment including templates, directories, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - Prepare the editing environment including templates, directories, etc. [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-09-16].
From previous experiences, the group plans to have the whole team as editors
scribe: a list of authors will also be provided
Call for volunteers for being editors
scribe: email Daniel and Felix, and state your experience in editing
previous specs
... declare you asap, so Felix can prepare the editing
environment
Publication of an initial WD or requirements document around TPAC
scribe: publication just after TPAC
PhilA: Seems an ambitious schedule
Felix: some work already done, from the Multimedia
XG
... people from this group might be knowledgable enough to get some actions and
push the work for a first WD
Daniel: to which document we are talking about?
Felix: we are talking about the Requirements document
From the charter: A W3C Working Group Note for use cases and requirements for the Media Ontology
First F2F meeting: Thu-Fri Oct 23-24, at W3C TPAC 2008, http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule.html
<PhilA> sadly that clashes with POWDER...
Raphael: quick poll who will attend
Raphael will
<VeroniqueMalaise> Veronique
<tobiasbuerger> one day clashes with another meeting
<davy> Davy will
<erik> will
<fsasaki> Felix will attend TPAC meeting
<PhilA> I will be there but only able to meet in the bar probably
Plan for a second F2F meeting
scribe: target December
... most likely 1st week
... Daniel will
favor Europe
Raphael: contact the organizers of SAMT'08,
possible meeting on 1st and 2nd of December in Koblenz (Germany)
... fallback plan:
meeting in Amsterdam or Belgium on Dec 8th and 9th
Felix asks if there is any volunteer for picking one of the standards mentioned in the charter and write a paragraph summarizing the requirements and coverage of these standards ?
scribe: not only the standards, but the various formats, as a follow up of the Multimedia Semantics XG
<scribe> ACTION: VeroniqueMalaise to pull out requirements of one standard (to be decided which) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - VeroniqueMalaise
<erik> so could MMLab (Davy & Erik)
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to pull out requirements of one standard (to be decided which) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Erik
Felix clarifies: not be tigh to the XG document
Phil: Send also use cases we have in mind to the list
PhilA: don't know yet
if I can commit to do some work, want to know what would be the use cases
... is the
target of this group also to make the video watching safer, particularly for young
people?
... unclear what the scope is
Felix: feel free to send all use cases you have in mind, it does not commit you to actually implement it
Phil: the charter mentions also some mappings between
the ontology and existing standards
... which ones should we consider?
Raphael: obvious ... IPTC, XMP, EXIF, EBU
<davy> MPEG-7
Raphael: to some extent: MPEG-7? EXIF
<plh> IPTC, XMP, EXIF, MPEG-7
<PhilA> Forgive my ignorance but does that include things I get with .wmv or .mpg files?
<scribe> ACTION: ALL to check that the list will cover the various formats [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ALL
<tobiasbuerger> I think we shouldn't forget about audio specific formats like ID3 or musicBrainz; the charter explicitely mentions audio
Erik: problem of the past Multimedia Semantics XG was that there were not enough industrial partners, and over representation of academics
+1 Tobias
Phil: Adobe will make a call ... W3C is working on bringing more industrials
<scribe> ACTION: ALL to check if there is standards/formats that you would like to NOT be considered [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ALL
<spark3> thanks a lot Raphael