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<steph> Joe: 5am in seattle
<steph> following the group since a while
<steph> joe: university of washington since 2 years
<steph> interested in the group mission
<steph> Lauri: company ?
<steph> Joe: independent working at university of washington
<steph> Raphael: will do next time
<steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/w3circ
jeffs is scribing now
<steph> scribe:Jeffs
<Raphael> I may be away during next meeting
<Raphael> will take notes for next one
<Raphael> Oct.
<steph> REsolution: minutes approved
sorry
<steph> stephane: next meeting september 15 and october 6
Agenda Item: review of action items
Item: Renjish to write a scenario around the vision
<steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/mw4dframework#vision
Renjish sent in a paragraph, Stephane is reviewing
we will review and comment for next mtg
<scribe> done
<scribe> done
a few people have indicated they will be at W3 F2F
<steph> Lauri also comming
<Jacob> Is there a last date to confirm participation?
Lauri, Jeff, & Steph are confirmed to attend W3C and we will make a F2F happen, at least informally
Steph: could meet 20 Oct for an hour, then Monday
zakim unmute me
discussion of when people will be there so we can arrange F2F
steph: we should avoid monday & tuesday...
suggests thursday or friday
... will try to set up friday slot
<steph> yes
<scribe> ACTION: Steph to find room for mtg on thurs or fri [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/01-mw4d-minutes.html#action01]
<steph> ACTION:Steph to investigate and find a slot for thursday or friday and organize a dinner [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/01-mw4d-minutes.html#action02]
<steph> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
<steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/
steph: have reorganized wiki, asking people to
review it, has been adding information
... important to keep track of and post about events re this domain
... encouraging group to post items to the wiki & to share information
via email to the group
... he can be point of contact to establish access
<steph> Lauri
Raphael: pointing out possible duplicative
pages on wiki which could be combined
... any limitations on what should go on wiki?
... notices he gets blocked if he clicks too often... possible problem with
"surge protection" on wiki?
Steph: send him directly the error message, so he can debug
<Raphael> ok
Steph: has done some recombination to simplify
& eliminate empty/duplicative pages
... in future, may rearrange wiki as pages grow
Raphael: suggests tools to share bookmarks like del.icio.us
discussion of bookmark sharing tools
Steph: does not know tools & any advantages over wiki pages with links
<Raphael> this is one example: http://delicious.com/gamos
Raphael: likes tagging of links with keywords/phrases
Steph: will look at using this tool
<scribe> ACTION: Steph will examine bookmark sharing tools that use keywords [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/01-mw4d-minutes.html#action03]
Raphael & Steph: discussion of various possible tools
<renjish> http://digg.com/
<renjish> i think this has similar functions
<Raphael> http://delicious.com/mobileactive is a collection of 370 bookmarks
<Raphael> FYI
jeffs: many possible tagging tools, steph can evaluate and post recommendations
Steph: good work done on "vision" document, now
time to move on to "Roadmap" document to plan work for next 10 months or
so
... wants to discuss w group beginning this document; at end of this mtg he
will establish new wiki page for this
... objectives for the document: 1) what technologies are available, & 2)
access issues for each technology plus service knowledge & tools needed
for each technology
... asking for opinions & feedback on how to start this work
Jeff: maybe first put up list of technologies
Jeffs: then we can go through the list indicating who has expertise in each area, then they can prepare para or two
Steph: either start w list of technologies or start with list of different challenges and see how each tech fits
<steph> evan
Evan: he & his colleagues are compiling a
list of technologies
... also what existing projects and pilot programs have succeeded and failed
in the past few years
Steph: perhaps we can mix the 2 approaches, with a) list of technologies & b) list what has been done so far & challenges
<stef> Jeff: it doesn't matter to me
<stef> starting point is important
<stef> list technologies
<stef> list of challenges
<stef> and see how we can sort and match
<stef> raphael: wiki format ?
<stef> jeffs: sure
<stef> brainstorming
<stef> starting as quickly as possible
<stef> Steph: +1
Steph: proposes mixed approach to deal with
initial list as like a "brainstorming" session list
... question for group: any other dimensions for the brainstorming
process?
... question for group: any volunteers to start the process
<renjish> +q
<stef> Jeff: i will go ahead and volunteer and start the process
<renjish> I can start on the technologies
<stef> Action Steph to start the roadmap page
<stef> joe: i can surely contributes to both challenges and technology
<stef> renjish: will contribute on the tech part
<renjish> can we set a tentative deadline for this document?
<renjish> a rough deadline
Steph: 2 objectives a) state of the art in
existing techs, b) identify challenges
... brainstorming part maybe 1 - 1.5 month timeline to get a solid start with
specific topics
<renjish> I think max 2 months would be fine
Steph: any other business before we close the call?
<renjish> stephane
<renjish> one question
<Raphael_> thank you
Steph: no other business, so thanks and goodby
<Jacob> thanks
<stef> renjish
<renjish> is it ok to have the framework done by end of this WG's period?
Steph in response to Renjish: will probably refine "Vision" document with results of "brainstorming"
<renjish> yes
<renjish> ok
Steph: perhaps can finish "framework" completed sooner
<Jacob> - jacob