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<Steven> trackbot has new magic
<Steven> trackbot, start call
<trackbot> Sorry, Steven, I don't understand 'trackbot, start call'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
<Steven> trackbot, begin call
<trackbot> Sorry, Steven, I don't understand 'trackbot, begin call'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
<Steven> trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Date: 18 June 2008
<Steven> tada!
<John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
<John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
<John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
<unl> hi guys, need some more minutes to join the call.
<nick> John can we talk a minute about about writing the modules?
<John_Boyer> yes
<Charlie> i will need to leave 30min early...sorry
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formssummer08/
formssummer08 doesn't let me declare next week's call
<Steven> Send separate regrets; the qn is only to decide which calls to drop during July and Aug
<John_Boyer2> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
<scribe> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to modularize RNG Schema for XForms 1.1 and put it in the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-469 - Klotz to modularize RNG Schema for XForms 1.1 and put it in the wiki [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-06-25].
<scribe> ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to work on modularized RNG Schema for XForms 1.1 and help turn it into modularized XForms 1.2 schema for bind module and the binding attributes module. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-470 - Van den Bleeken to work on modularized RNG Schema for XForms 1.1 and help turn it into modularized XForms 1.2 schema for bind module and the binding attributes module. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-06-25].
<Steven> feels left out :-(
http://xformstest.org/2008-06-18.txt
<John_Boyer2> Steven, did Martin provide what you needed for completing Appendix E InputMode?
<Steven> ha
<nick> fine for me
<Steven> Well, maybe
<Steven> it's still rather opawque to me
<Steven> I'm hoping I can make sense of it
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer to write Binding Attributes module for XForms 1.2. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<unl> yes
<nick> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formssummer08/
<scribe> ACTION: Charlie Wiecha and John Boywer to create presentational materials for WebApps group for Tech Plenary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Charlie
<scribe> ACTION: Nick van Den Bleeken to develop create presentational materials for CDF group for Tech Plenary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-471 - Van Den Bleeken to develop create presentational materials for HTML group for Tech Plenary. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-06-25].
<scribe> ACTION: Leigh Klotz and John Boyer to develop create presentational materials for CDF group for Tech Plenary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-472 - Klotz and John Boyer to develop create presentational materials for CDF group for Tech Plenary. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-06-25].
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer and John Boyer to develop create presentational materials for XML SEC group for Tech Plenary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<John_Boyer2> Action 2008-05-28.3
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
<John_Boyer2> Action 2008-05-28.5
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
<John_Boyer2> 28Action 2008-04-16.2
<John_Boyer2> 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0022.html
<Roger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0022.html
<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#SOAP
<John_Boyer> <submission ... mediatype="application/soap+xml; charset=xyz"
<John_Boyer> ... encoding="UTF-8"
<John_Boyer> 1) what if encoding given and charset not given
<John_Boyer> 2) what if encoding given and charset also given but different
<John_Boyer> accept header has charset if and only if @mediatype expresses one
<John_Boyer> In http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0022.html
<John_Boyer> option b is to keep current spec wording from above (accept header has charset if and only if mediatype expresses one)
<John_Boyer> option A (preferrable) is that encoding is used to set charset in accept header if charset is not expressed in submission mediatype
<John_Boyer> Since encoding has default UTF-8, if we let encoding override the charset in mediatype, then charset will never get used
<John_Boyer> proposal: In XForms 1.1 switch SOAP behavior to say that submission encoding provides charset to accept header if submission mediatype does not express charset
<scribe> ACTION: Keith Wells to add required-but-empty test back into validity. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-473 - Wells to add required-but-empty test back into validity. [on Keith Wells - due 2008-06-25].
RESOLUTION: In XForms 1.1 switch SOAP behavior to say that submission encoding provides charset to accept header if submission mediatype does not express charset
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer to, in XForms 1.1, switch SOAP behavior to say that submission encoding provides charset to accept header if submission mediatype does not express charset. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-forms-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0022/2008-05-14.html#topic13
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