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<AllanJ> Title: UAWG call
<scribe> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008AprJun/0131.html
JA: we were expecting Alan Cantor this week.
<scribe> scribe: jeanne
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/UAAG20080611/results
<AllanJ> Jim suggests preamble: A User Agent's purpose is to present author supplied content (including alternative content) written in a markup language to a user in a human readable form.
KF: Wording is consistent with the rest of documents.
<AllanJ> JS: makes sense, is needed
Resolved: Accept the Jan phrasing with the addition proposed by JA above.
Resolved: accept language for printing to the working draft
JA: reviewed keyboard proposal history, there is a proposal that was written on keyboard
<AllanJ> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008AprJun/0042.html
<AllanJ> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008AprJun/0042.html
JS: This proposal doesn't include the items we discussed last week: exposing the keyboard shortcuts, allowing users to remap shortcuts, shortcuts are persistent from session to session, remapped shortcuts can be imported and exported.
JB: There should not be an assumption that keyboard users are using assistive technology
KF: The discussion back in April, was JB satisfied with the technique used Office 2007 ribbon?
JB: the way that Microsoft was doing the visual indicators was good.
KF: We need to find the right language to guide people to the behavior that we want.
JB: Is this 4.1.1 supposed to include the visual indicator issues?
JA: No.
JB: So does 4.1.1 do what it should?
JA: The keyboard can be used for everything except drawing.
resolved: the wording of 4.1.1 will be put into the draft
JB: What's the status on the language for visual indicators
<AllanJ> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0052.html
JA: All the words with asterisks are supposed to be defined in the glossary.
<AllanJ> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0078.html
Above link is a list of keyboard commands and definitions
JB: There are a lot of links in the agenda mail.
JA: These are the same links.
KF: Propose that we revisit the whole keyboard
section in order to insure quality.
... Collect all the information, put it up on the list, and have people
commit to reading it so we can have a meaningful discussion.
JB: Can someone make a new proposal for next
week? I will commit to commenting on-line.
... Or we can discuss it the following week.
KF: Can commit to delivering it to the meeting on the 26th.
JA: Not available for 3 weeks for vacation.
JB: Participation is down, and this is an issue
that has generated interest in the past.
... more discussion on the list will result in increased quality of the
language.
<scribe> ACTION: jeanne will write a proposal for keyboard, review it with Judy, and circulate it to the list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-ua-minutes.html#action01]
JA: will miss Jun 19, 26, and Jul 3rd meetings.
JB: Do we have any other major issues?
JA: Video and DOM issues
JB: In the CG meeting it was discussed that the
DOM issue was timely.
... Will follow up with Rod Sinclair of AIA on contributing. He is a liaison
between AIA and W3C.
<scribe> ACTION: Judy will follow-up with Rod Sinclair of AIA. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-ua-minutes.html#action02]
JA: We want some contribution of expertise from the ARIA group. How the javascript writes to the DOM and repair.
JB: Let's skip next week, as both JA and JB are
unavailable. That gives time to make a focused proposal for keyboard
shortcuts.
... then we can work on keyboard shortcuts on the next meeting.
... Have to finalize the charter.
... Harmonization of glossary with ATAG.
... Test Suite
KF: What do we have to do to update the dates on the new charter?
JB: It is helpful to have an up-to-date forward
view of timeline.
... they can be adjusted as they go forward, but it should strive to be
accurate.
... Once it is done in the WG, then they are sent to W3M for review, then it
goes to ??? for a month of review.
<KFord> can we put a link to our current charter in the meeting notes?
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2008/draft_uawg_charter_25apr08.html
JB: JS will work on the proposal for keyboard language. JA will assist.
JB is reviewing the charter information and will be giving feedback next week.
JA will be available until Thursday 19th.
JB: no meeting on 19. 26th meeting will have
discussion on Keyboard proposal. Proposal is placed on the list no later than
23.
... tentative meeting on 3. Finish the entire keyboard discussion on July
10.
... will run by the Access Board.
... the DOM discussion is more timely than video. We should restart
discussion on that in parallel.
Start it on July 10 with material prepared before the meeting.
Jim is back on the 7th.
JB: There is still recruitment we need to do before that. The video isn't as timely.
JA: We got all the input we needed on video. We did a lot of work on it already.
JB: Keyboard issues will be primary on the
agenda until it is complete. We can have video as a secondary issue.
... then we can focus on DOM.
JA: Should we be working on TEchniques?
JB: We need to look at all the deliverables, techniques, test suite, etc, and prioritize.
KF: Propose that by July 24 we have a clear list of all the work that needs to be accomplished and the dates in which they should be delivered.
JB: the charter doesn't list all the other
deliverables that we are responsible for.
... look at SCope: Test Materials should be called "Test Suite". It needs to
be in the Milestones.
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