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Weekly Forms WG Teleconference

07 May 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Charlie, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, wellsk, Rafael
Regrets
Steven, Erik_(possible), John, Leigh
Chair
Nick
Scribe
Roger

Contents


 

 

<Charlie> * hi nick, keith

<Charlie> * hi zakim

<nick> Regrets so far: Steven, Erik, John, Leigh

+ Uli

Hi

<wellsk> I do not hear anything -- wondering if I am having trouble?

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0004.html

<nick> Scribe: Roger

<Charlie> keith, can you hear now?

<wellsk> nope

<wellsk> hanging up and redialing

Action Items

Submission Validation issue

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/att-0132/2008-04-30.html#topic9

<Roger_> Nick: Do somebody want to add sth

Charlie: Maybe we need more stuff but we are very close

<nick> Nick: Are there CSS specialists, or people who know how toe solve the styling issue

<Roger_> Nick: I will send a mail to the list

<Roger_> Nick: Reading the spec there were a problem with the event-handlers

<nick> Nick: We can add the current value that is invalid to the context info of the xforms-invalid event

<nick> Nick: We will postpone the discussion about CSS till a later call

Dinamyc dependencies

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0100.html

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/att-0104/2008-04-23.html#topic7

<Roger_> Nick: an email I sent

<Roger_> Nick: related an action item for me

<nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies

<Roger_> Nick: in the spec the first b is the only dependent node

<Roger_> Nick: to be considered

<Roger_> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies

<Roger_> Nick: my question was how many a or bs should be in the dependency list

<Roger_> Nick: according the spec only the first b should it be

<Roger_> Roger: In Madrid we didn�t study this case

<Roger_> Nick: Probably we need to postpone, or maybe there is not better solution

<Roger_> Charlie: Maybe you can close the action Item

<Roger_> Charlie: You can arise a new action item

<Roger_> Nick: we�d need some good candidate to study the dependency problem in detail

<Roger_> Nick: just leave in the agenda

Origin attribute

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0127.html

<nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#insert-delete-patterns-set-attribute

<Roger_> Nick: I think the sample is wrong

<Roger_> Nick: we�d need to change the sample

<wellsk> [me] +1

<Roger_> ACTION: John needs to fix the insert sample B4, adding a note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John

<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Apr/0003.html

<nick> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features

<Roger_> Nick: we have to clarify the Mozilla implementation

<nick> Nick: value attribute is evaluated relative to the bind attribute on the setvalue

<Roger_> ACTION: Nick to respond the email 2008Apr/003 saying that is a future issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-459 - Respond the email 2008Apr/003 saying that is a future issue [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-05-14].

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0115.html

Form tag implied model

<Roger_> Charlie: Have we relaxed the rules for allowing the model?

<Roger_> Charlie: do we know the html requirements?

<nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-xforms.html#s_xformsmodule

<Roger_> Nick: ... m12n

<Roger_> Nick: I think I can live with the one container issue

<Roger_> Nick: maybe we can add some module for this in xforms and not in the Core

<Roger_> Charlie: we should think in adding it in a separate module

<Roger_> Nick: John & MBibeck are strong supporters for the form tag

<wellsk> yes

<Roger_> +1

<Roger_> RESOLUTION: Add container element called "form" to xforms language

Implied submission

<nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0063.html

<Roger_> Nick: John proposed to use the action attr

<Roger_> Nick: if you have an form with action and method we can create a default submission

<Roger_> Nick: .. we need a support for nested models

<Roger_> Nick: but nested models it could be a 2.O issue

<Roger_> Charlie: form tag is more a container tag

<Roger_> Nick: .. for instance if you decide to type a element it creates a bind

<Roger_> Nick: the implied submission could point to the default model but if you have a model you couldn�t refer to it

<Roger_> Nick: I will look out the stuff I wrote

<Roger_> Nick: ... we can discuss further on it

<Roger_> Charlie: Backplane is starting next Friday

<nick> actions?

<Roger_> Bye

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: John needs to fix the insert sample B4, adding a note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Nick to respond the email 2008Apr/003 saying that is a future issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-forms-minutes.html#action02]
 
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